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 Post subject: Rega RP3 vs Linn LP12
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:08 pm 
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Hi all,
A Linn LP12/Basik/K-9 has come up for sale locally. How would that compare to my Rega RP3/Exact/ Tangospinner Splatter/ TTPSU?
Any thoughts? Rest of rig is Graham Slee SE2, Naim Unitiqute, Focal 806v Speakers.
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I'm an RP3 owner and have thought about the same move.

In terms of tone arms it would be a downgrade.

Rega RB303 > Linn Basik.

If you do go with a LP12 I'd look for a better arm. It's not easy to upgrade from the RP3. The RB303 is hard to beat for the price. Can handle some high end LOMC carts. Which I wouldn't put on a Basik.

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I would be eyeing up your phonostage first and then cart. Your Rega has a fair bit of headroom left. You haven't hit its full potential yet.

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Linn has evolved a lot since it came on the market. You would have to take a look at the iteration of the Linn you are looking to get and if any upgrades have been performed on it in order to compare.


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What kind of power supply? If it's a Valhalla then it won't play 45rpm records.

IMO you would have to put a lot of money into that LP12 to bring it even with your RP3, since your current tonearm and cartridge are better than the Basik and K9.


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I can pipe here as the previous owner of multiple Linns and Regas.

The Linn combo you are looking at is likely mid 1980s to very early 1990s. When I bought my LP12 Valhalla in 1991, it had the Akito arm and K5 cartridge. The K9 was more detailed and open but could sound a bit bright on the wrong system. The K5 was a tarted up AT95e with stiffer cantilever. The Akito arm was a bit less resonant than the Basik thanks to the thicker arm tube. I would choose a modern Rega arm over any of these these old Japanese-made Linn arms.

The turntable itself will be a tougher choice. Modern Linns sounds a lot more even versus Valhalla Linns. On the Valhalla, there is a real weird discontinuity in the bass making it rather tubby and not really well integrated with the midrange. I had the Linn Axis prior to my LP12 and it was vastly better in this regard. Axis came out in the cd era so it was a lot more even sounding.The Axis had a smaller soundstage but a much more modern sound. Every system is different - an LP12 Valhalla in an all-Linn system of the day would not sound too bad but, in a more neutral non-Linn system, might not sound as good.

Nothing sounds like a Linn LP12. If you like it, then enjoy. They are incredibly durable, reliable and engaging to listen to. Compared to a Rega, Linns have better speed and pitch stability.

Linns need to be tuned up and will need a low, light, stiff shelf as they are extremely sensitive to foot falls unless you have a concrete floor.

I would not trade your RP3 in - I would add a second turntable.


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Forbes_2 wrote:
I would be eyeing up your phonostage first and then cart. Your Rega has a fair bit of headroom left. You haven't hit its full potential yet.

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What would you recommend? Thanks

-- 11 Nov 2018 15:44 --

Thanks everyone, I think I'm going to stick with the RP3 - appreciate all the insights and advice


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You should not count out the LP12. Go have a listen if you can but it is a high end product. More like having a tube amp versus set and forget like a solid state amp or a Rega table.


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cmarvell wrote:
Forbes_2 wrote:
I would be eyeing up your phonostage first and then cart. Your Rega has a fair bit of headroom left. You haven't hit its full potential yet.

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What would you recommend? Thanks

-- 11 Nov 2018 15:44 --

Thanks everyone, I think I'm going to stick with the RP3 - appreciate all the insights and advice


Good choice. I upgraded my rega deck with a DV 10X5 cart; that made a BIG difference. Also look at your arm wiring. My next step is to upgrade the phono pre-amp. I am currently using (and liking) a Project Tube DS. it is good, but I feel is not optimal. Another cart to consider (I use it on my RB-250 armed Thorens) is the Hana line of carts. I have the SL and it is sublime!


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cmarvell wrote:
Hi all,
A Linn LP12/Basik/K-9 has come up for sale locally. How would that compare to my Rega RP3/Exact/ Tangospinner Splatter/ TTPSU?
Any thoughts? Rest of rig is Graham Slee SE2, Naim Unitiqute, Focal 806v Speakers.
Thanks in advance,


Woah. The LP-12 is FAR superior -even if it's the first one ever made by Linn !

Buy it -assuming it's reasonably priced. If not, consider seeking/listening to the excellent Marantz TT-15 combo. This Clearaudio-built table/arm (TT-15) is excellent; used $800-$1K typically! You'll love it)

pj


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I am a lp12 owner. I believe that the lp12 would be a better option. The lp12 has many upgrade paths and the ceiling would be much higher than the rp3. The upgrades can be pricey but there are also non -linn upgrade options. Also have bought used and slowly upgraded the lp12. I started with the basik tonearm and k5 cartridge and enjoyed it greatly. The lp12 has rhythm and presentation that is very engaging. You should try to listen to it 1st.


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The Linn will be a better table in the long run, but you will most likely spend more money, but you’ll have a better sounding table.

Having said that, if you decide to keep your rp3, you shiuld look into michael lim and his motor isolation base, and possibly a couple of his other rega upgrades. The iso base is a huge improvement overall and very inexpensive.

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You should not count out the LP12. Go have a listen if you can but it is a high end product. More like having a tube amp versus set and forget like a solid state amp or a Rega table.

Very accurate. The LP12 requires work. It's not a set and forget TT.
For the most part the Rega is what is. The LP12 can be upgraded. The upgrades are pricey,think Bill Gates pricey.
I bought my LP12 with the thoughts of upgrading it. Other than adding a Linn Linto I haven't gotten any further. Once I hit the Lotto Max Friday I feel upgrades on the way. :wink:

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I have a Rega P3 with a ton of upgrades … 24v motor with TTPSU, Groovetracer Reference subplatter with acrylic platter, incognito tonearm wiring with Safety Riser VTA adjustment … and my LP-12 is still MUCH better.

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Quadzilla wrote:
I have a Rega P3 with a ton of upgrades … 24v motor with TTPSU, Groovetracer Reference subplatter with acrylic platter, incognito tonearm wiring with Safety Riser VTA adjustment … and my LP-12 is still MUCH better.


Well said - I always had a second table with my Lp12 for 45 RPM, usually a Dual, Technics or Thorens and later a Rega. When tuned up, the Linn smoked all of them.

To the OP, you actually have a very nice system. An LP12 would be a good fit. Back in the day, many of us used a Naim or Linn amp and a pair of high quality bookshelf speakers which your Focals definitely are.

Before you buy an older Linn, make sure you are near a Linn dealer or someone who is qualified to work on these tables. They do need a bit of care but a tuned up Linn sounds like nothing else and it could be your last table.


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