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 Post subject: My moon is back.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:28 pm 
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After a month without I’m back to enjoying my CDs on my moon. :D Paid $ 400 for the transport , $ 100 for the installation, plus tax .


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:01 pm 
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Hope it's worth it.
Bought a Yamaha cd player recently (model is CDX-550) - great, and not just at 45$CAD! delivered.

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That’s really the reason for my post. I think the CD is alive and well. It is at least in my house. Considering what the moon cost me in the first place, I don’t think I had any choice but to have it repaired. It would make an expensive boat anchor. Seriously though, at what point does one not spend the money?


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IIRC, the supernova is a multi bit ladder dac that takes the 16/44 and converts to 24/96 output?

It may process the 16/44 at 16/44, though.

but the chip itself is capable of much more. A cd player worth fixing, if at all possible.

Basically, the dacs (one per channel) are now old stock only and come in at $50 us each, as a minimum.

Most modern dacs are delta sigma types, cost a few bucks (max $7-10), and sound like crap in comparison.

the sled is a Philips 12.1 or 12.2 unit, IIRC. And they are rare now.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:56 pm 
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Teo Audio wrote:
IIRC, the supernova is a multi bit ladder dac that takes the 16/44 and converts to 24/96 output?

It may process the 16/44 at 16/44, though.

but the chip itself is capable of much more. A cd player worth fixing, if at all possible.

Basically, the dacs (one per channel) are now old stock only and come in at $50 us each, as a minimum.

Most modern dacs are delta sigma types, cost a few bucks (max $7-10), and sound like crap in comparison.

the sled is a Philips 12.1 or 12.2 unit, IIRC. And they are rare now.

Ok ,huh , was it worth getting fixed ?


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Owned a Supernova for about three years, best sounding CD player I've ever heard and I'm not sure I've heard a better DAC. My BDA-3 is close but the main reason I own it is the vast selection of inputs. The Supernova only has one.

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I thought moon had a 10 year warranty ?


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chevyguy wrote:
I thought moon had a 10 year warranty ?

True, but this unit is 11 and I am also the second owner.

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KJT1 wrote:
Owned a Supernova for about three years, best sounding CD player I've ever heard and I'm not sure I've heard a better DAC. My BDA-3 is close but the main reason I own it is the vast selection of inputs. The Supernova only has one.

I’ve never used the Dac but I agree it’s a great sounding Redbook CD only player. Better than my Marantz CD 6006 which is a nice back up player.


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Gerhard Roemer wrote:
chevyguy wrote:
I thought moon had a 10 year warranty ?

True, but this unit is 11 and I am also the second owner.

-- 21 Aug 2018 01:12 --

KJT1 wrote:
Owned a Supernova for about three years, best sounding CD player I've ever heard and I'm not sure I've heard a better DAC. My BDA-3 is close but the main reason I own it is the vast selection of inputs. The Supernova only has one.

I’ve never used the Dac but I agree it’s a great sounding Redbook CD only player. Better than my Marantz CD 6006 which is a nice back up player.

Plug the Marantz into the Supernova just for the fun of it to see how good it can sound when used as a transport only.

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I used to own a Supernova as well. It's a great sounding player. If you get the chance, buy some symposium series 2 roller blocks for under it.


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Gerhard, I think you already answered your own question about the value of having it repaired. For me, I am still a hard-core CD user. I have hundreds and enjoy them all. I have them all ripped and saved, but I find my favourites conveniently following me into my truck or the car. And I have three systems all using a 5-disc player. This gives me ultimately 6 or so hours of uninterrupted music of my choice in my workshops and warehouse. And that makes me smile.

CD's are not dead. Not in my world.

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It's great that the player could be serviced - too many manufacturers do not support their legacy products (which is a darn shame).


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hollinger wrote:
It's great that the player could be serviced - too many manufacturers do not support their legacy products (which is a darn shame).

Simaudio is one of the better Canadian companies. Excellent customer service and advice.


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The big problem was finding authentic Philips transports for the repair.

There was a time where none were around to even be installed.

The reason the price for the repair is as high as it was, is probably due to that non-availability. Very likely that there is a very limited stock of the appropriate Philips sleds and laser assemblies. And yes, it was definitely worth fixing.

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Teo Audio wrote:
The big problem was finding authentic Philips transports for the repair.

There was a time where none were around to even be installed.

The reason the price for the repair is as high as it was, is probably due to that non-availability. Very likely that there is a very limited stock of the appropriate Philips sleds and laser assemblies. And yes, it was definitely worth fixing.

Much appreciated , good to hear.


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