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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:25 am 
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How you clean your vinyl records and the solutions you use is the topic of this thread. Whether your throwing them in the kitchen sink with the dishes or have a lab grade clean room with 3 Keith Monks machines followed by 2 different ultrasonic baths we want to hear about it!

I'll start of by saying it's my intention to purchase a Vinyl Stack w/ ultrasonic tank some time this year but will probably use the DIY method I outline below as a pre-clean for used records.

My DIY cleaning solution includes a hand held battery operated shoe polisher I got from the $ store, microfibre paint rollers I got from Home Depot and an Ion turntable I rescued from a thrift shop which I removed the belt from. The Ion deserves to be crushed as a turntable but makes a good DIY RCM base.

I live in an area with high quality tap water that leaves no residue so I just rinse them in the sink after cleaning.

I use a solution of Brita Filtered Water/Isopropyl/Dish Soap in a 1L squeezebottle (about 80%/20%/2 TBSP)

1. Rinse both sides under a strong nozzle spray of lukewarm water which removes all the surface dust & loose gunk
2. Place record on turntable and squeeze a small bead of solution onto record (after a few attempts you'll get a feel for the correct amount.)
3. Turn on scrubbing brush and scrub record about 1 min. You'll get a feel for how close to get to the label you can go. You have to slow the platter down with your other hand as it'll spin fast w/o a belt.
4. Rinse washed side.
5. Flip over and repeat on the other side.
6. Rinse both sides well using the spray nozzle & shake off the excess water.
7. Dry with microfiber cloth.
8. Enjoy record!


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Without vacuuming, you are not removing the dirt.

https://www.cnet.com/news/vacuumed-viny ... -machines/


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:55 am 
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Sgt Pepper wrote:
Without vacuuming, you are not removing the dirt.

https://www.cnet.com/news/vacuumed-viny ... -machines/


Vacuuming is not necessary anymore. Ultrasound does a better job, no brushes on the surface and gets into the grooves.

But I agree, surface scrubbing only is a waste of time.


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I use a Squeaky clean RCM with vacuum.
99.9% iso alchohol and water.
Simple and does the job.

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I purchased one of these in ebay.
https://squeakycleanvinyl.com/

Then I bought one of these from Walmart.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/stanley-1- ... 0195139694

I bought two of these. One for solution (soak) and one for clean water (rinse). The vacuum kit itself comes with a brush but to me it's not good enough.
http://www.analogueseduction.net/brushe ... brush.html

I bought two of these for air drying.
http://www.analogueseduction.net/knosti ... -rack.html

I just follow the sellers video regarding solution, distilled water + 99% Alcohol + a couple of drops of Dawn dishwashing detergent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbphnT1d-ys

I just use a carbon fiber brush when I spin records before I drop the needle.

I clean my needle every 4-5 albums with one of these.
https://www.needledoctor.com/Onzow-Zerodust

I use canned air to blow dust off my rig and that's pretty much it for me.

I use mofi sleeves and new outer sleeves whenever it is needed after vacuuming even with new albums.

I guess that I don't have a big enough collection to warrant an expensive cleaning machine since I have only started on this hobby a couple of years back and only have collected around 400 records so far of mostly (75%) new records as well.

Things might change once I hit a thousand records. :D


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macguyver wrote:
Sgt Pepper wrote:
Without vacuuming, you are not removing the dirt.

https://www.cnet.com/news/vacuumed-viny ... -machines/


Vacuuming is not necessary anymore. Ultrasound does a better job, no brushes on the surface and gets into the grooves.

But I agree, surface scrubbing only is a waste of time.


Yes, they both work well but the main point is that scrubbing the dirt and then not removing it is a waste of time. Also, the amount of steps he is using is ridiculous. I can clean a record with a proper machine in a matter of seconds.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:02 am 
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I'm lazy. VPI record cleaner for me. It's easy and cleans pretty good.


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I use a Squeaky Clean with 1tsp Arista Flow wetting agent to 4l distilled water and rinse.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:11 am 
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Sgt Pepper wrote:
macguyver wrote:
Sgt Pepper wrote:
Without vacuuming, you are not removing the dirt.

https://www.cnet.com/news/vacuumed-viny ... -machines/


Vacuuming is not necessary anymore. Ultrasound does a better job, no brushes on the surface and gets into the grooves.

But I agree, surface scrubbing only is a waste of time.


Yes, they both work well but the main point is that scrubbing the dirt and then not removing it is a waste of time. Also, the amount of steps he is using is ridiculous. I can clean a record with a proper machine in a matter of seconds.


Lets keep it civil shall we?

My experience tells me that it works very well. The dirt that is loosened gets washed away from the warm water rinse from the spray nozzle. Too labour intensive though hence the desire for the USC.
I have an AT440MLa that's known for digging crud from grooves and never have anything on the stylus even after many days of playing. Very quiet too.

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I pre-clean using a Squeaky Clean Vinyl RCM followed by a 15 minute ultrasonic bath (using Vinyl Stack and Rushton's cleaning formula), steam rinse with distilled water, then double distilled vacuum rinse with "clean" pickup wand and mat.

Here are the details for those interested:

1. RCM with MoFi Super Wash using brush #1, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
2. RCM with Disc Doctor Miracle Wash using brush #2, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
3. RCM distilled water rinse using pickup wand #1 and mat #1
4. Ultrasonic clean 15 minutes at 50C, single record only using a Vinyl Stack.
5. Steam rinse with distilled water, let drip dry for 30 minutes
6. RCM with distilled water using brush #3, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
7. RCM with distilled water, no brush, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
8. Air dry for 30 minutes
9. Static treatment with a Milty gun
10. New MoFi sleeve

It takes some patience but my records are clean! As I posted on AudioCircle about a month ago, I have the timing setup so I can take a break and listen to a clean side and enjoy a beverage in the middle of a batch.

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toddc2 wrote:

Here are the details for those interested:

1. RCM with MoFi Super Wash using brush #1, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
2. RCM with Disc Doctor Miracle Wash using brush #2, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
3. RCM distilled water rinse using pickup wand #1 and mat #1
4. Ultrasonic clean 15 minutes at 50C, single record only using a Vinyl Stack.
5. Steam rinse with distilled water, let drip dry for 30 minutes
6. RCM with distilled water using brush #3, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
7. RCM with distilled water, no brush, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
8. Air dry for 30 minutes
9. Static treatment with a Milty gun
10. New MoFi sleeve


Todd


Wow, what is the total time for all of this?


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toddc2 wrote:
I pre-clean using a Squeaky Clean Vinyl RCM followed by a 15 minute ultrasonic bath (using Vinyl Stack and Rushton's cleaning formula), steam rinse with distilled water, then double distilled vacuum rinse with "clean" pickup wand and mat.

Here are the details for those interested:

1. RCM with MoFi Super Wash using brush #1, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
2. RCM with Disc Doctor Miracle Wash using brush #2, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
3. RCM distilled water rinse using pickup wand #1 and mat #1
4. Ultrasonic clean 15 minutes at 50C, single record only using a Vinyl Stack.
5. Steam rinse with distilled water, let drip dry for 30 minutes
6. RCM with distilled water using brush #3, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
7. RCM with distilled water, no brush, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
8. Air dry for 30 minutes
9. Static treatment with a Milty gun
10. New MoFi sleeve

It takes some patience but my records are clean! As I posted on AudioCircle about a month ago, I have the timing setup so I can take a break and listen to a clean side and enjoy a beverage in the middle of a batch.

Todd


If I had to do this to all of my records, I would sell them all and go digital route. This is some serious dedication right there.


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tomcio wrote:
toddc2 wrote:
I pre-clean using a Squeaky Clean Vinyl RCM followed by a 15 minute ultrasonic bath (using Vinyl Stack and Rushton's cleaning formula), steam rinse with distilled water, then double distilled vacuum rinse with "clean" pickup wand and mat.

Here are the details for those interested:

1. RCM with MoFi Super Wash using brush #1, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
2. RCM with Disc Doctor Miracle Wash using brush #2, pickup wand #1 and mat #1
3. RCM distilled water rinse using pickup wand #1 and mat #1
4. Ultrasonic clean 15 minutes at 50C, single record only using a Vinyl Stack.
5. Steam rinse with distilled water, let drip dry for 30 minutes
6. RCM with distilled water using brush #3, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
7. RCM with distilled water, no brush, pickup wand #2 and mat #2
8. Air dry for 30 minutes
9. Static treatment with a Milty gun
10. New MoFi sleeve

It takes some patience but my records are clean! As I posted on AudioCircle about a month ago, I have the timing setup so I can take a break and listen to a clean side and enjoy a beverage in the middle of a batch.

Todd


If I had to do this to all of my records, I would sell them all and go digital route. This is some serious dedication right there.



You are right about that. Just get a Nitty Gritty or Record Doctor and be done with it. Takes about 20-30 seconds to clean and vacuum both sides.


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I have got to get me one of them brushes! :)

For cleaning solutions, the best I've come across is this one I reposted here. It's very stable....you can mix a gallon of it and it will still be in perfect condition a year later.

For cleaning apparatuses, I started with a DIY version of the GEM Dandy, experimented briefly with an ultrasonic tank, then moved on to a Loriclone, which is where I'm at now.

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I find Japsnese pressings do not attract any dirt nor there is any static to them.


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