Canuck Audio Mart Hifi and Audio ForumCanuck Audio Mart Hifi and Audio Forum
It is currently Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:22 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:30 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 12:15 pm
Posts: 250
Location: toronto, ON, CA
If you have a microphone and signal generator, you may be able to tweak the time delay so that the Quad and the Magnepan are in phase.... just play with the delay until you can measure maximum volume at the crossover frequency.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:57 am
Posts: 280
Location: North Vancouver, BC, CA
That’s getting a little beyond my means. I can plug stuff in and crank volumes, which makes me dangerous. The quads was just a test to see how to set up a multi panel setup. Worked really well so I’m hopeful for two pairs of magnepans.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:12 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 12:15 pm
Posts: 250
Location: toronto, ON, CA
Here are some simple steps:

For a signal generator, you can find free audio software online and create a file that contains nothing but the 100Hz tone.

Then using a microphone about 1M away from the speakers, you can measure volumes with the mic input on a laptop/PC as you record the playback.

The mini-DSP should have a settable time delay between HF and LF outputs. Experiment with this to find peak volume at 100Hz.

That way you can avoid any hump or cancellation/suckout.

It's just a bit of fooling around.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:42 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:57 am
Posts: 280
Location: North Vancouver, BC, CA
Well, I received the 3.7s and tried various combinations with the 1.6. The only one that worked without sounding downright weird was the 1.6 beside on either side crossed over at 250 hz or lower. Anything else and you could hear odd affects between the speakers. Frankly the 3.7 sound better on their own. Just getting used to the sound change. Again, I’m can’t believe it took me this long to get into magnepan. Massive soundstage. Disturbingly the 1.6 seems better for solo voice. This makes me wonder if the 1.7i might be in my future.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon May 23, 2016 1:19 pm
Posts: 179
Location: Mississauga, ON, CA
malthuse wrote:
Well, I received the 3.7s and tried various combinations with the 1.6. The only one that worked without sounding downright weird was the 1.6 beside on either side crossed over at 250 hz or lower. Anything else and you could hear odd affects between the speakers. Frankly the 3.7 sound better on their own. Just getting used to the sound change. Again, I’m can’t believe it took me this long to get into magnepan. Massive soundstage. Disturbingly the 1.6 seems better for solo voice. This makes me wonder if the 1.7i might be in my future.


The 1.6 and 1.7 are very similar sonically. I doubt you will hear a big (or even small) difference.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:33 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:07 pm
Posts: 1579
Location: 53˚27'46"N 2˚17'28"W
Do the 3.7 have spikes? If not, get them off the rug/carpeting on place them direct on the hard floor. Even if they do, the direct coupling will improve bass response and help bloom of the mids. If there are no spikes or footers of any sort, simply place a coin under each leg of the stands and then be amazed.

Also, the 3 series is a three way, you'll have to adjust the toe-in and speaker/speaker distance to achieve its full potential. Don't expect to drop into the same spot you had the 1.6 and expect improved performance.

_________________
"What you talking 'bout, Willis?."


Last edited by kwadzilla on Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:04 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:01 pm 
Online

Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:29 pm
Posts: 696
Location: toronto, ON, CA
i only had a pair of humble mg1cs some years ago.

but i did find that they sounded way worse with other speakers in the room. it was a big difference, it took me by surprise. im not sure why it affects them so much more than other speakers ive owned. (maybe the reverse effect of the unique way panels apparently load a room?) loved them though. im very magnepan curious..


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:17 am
Posts: 13866
Location: Toronto, ON, CA
With the maggie being so far out from the back wall, the temptation to store unused items or other items of furniture would be a big mistake. Maggies need space... cluttering the space in behind kills the bass.

_________________
To a hammer, everything looks like a nail


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:47 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:07 pm
Posts: 1579
Location: 53˚27'46"N 2˚17'28"W
ripblade wrote:
With the maggie being so far out from the back wall, the temptation to store unused items or other items of furniture would be a big mistake. Maggies need space... cluttering the space in behind kills the bass.

Seconded. Trying to satisfy my wife in the bedroom I placed the records (Kallax stands) on the wall behind the 2.5s which were about 4-5' away. The system sounded weak/anaemic as a result and the Kallax stands had to go back in the bedroom and my wife remained dis-satisfied.

_________________
"What you talking 'bout, Willis?."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:17 am
Posts: 13866
Location: Toronto, ON, CA
kwadzilla wrote:
ripblade wrote:
With the maggie being so far out from the back wall, the temptation to store unused items or other items of furniture would be a big mistake. Maggies need space... cluttering the space in behind kills the bass.

Seconded. Trying to satisfy my wife in the bedroom I placed the records (Kallax stands) on the wall behind the 2.5s which were about 4-5' away. The system sounded weak/anaemic as a result and the Kallax stands had to go back in the bedroom and my wife remained dis-satisfied.

So now you're both dissatisfied lol.

Maggies are a paradox....they look so WAF...

_________________
To a hammer, everything looks like a nail


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:04 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:32 pm
Posts: 433
Location: winnipeg, MB, CA
Maggies must really be a love or hate relationship. I have the MMG's and have been unhappy with them for a few reasons. Recently I threw a wack of power at them and was greatly impressed by how much they picked up. However, I had wanted to build a very simple system and now having to add a power amp and perhaps a sub I am wondering if I am getting off course just to accommodate the speakers.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:58 pm
Posts: 207
Location: Handel, SK, CA
Canadiansnowland wrote:
Maggies must really be a love or hate relationship. I have the MMG's and have been unhappy with them for a few reasons. Recently I threw a wack of power at them and was greatly impressed by how much they picked up. However, I had wanted to build a very simple system and now having to add a power amp and perhaps a sub I am wondering if I am getting off course just to accommodate the speakers.


This may help, raise them a foot off the floor, GET RID of angle and stand dead straight up and down, I have smga that I made new frames for so could stand vertical, really amazing the difference in sound.Try it first


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:11 pm
Posts: 1028
Location: Somewhere Way Out West
kwadzilla wrote:
Seconded. Trying to satisfy my wife in the bedroom I placed the records (Kallax stands) on the wall behind the 2.5s which were about 4-5' away. The system sounded weak/anaemic as a result and the Kallax stands had to go back in the bedroom and my wife remained dis-satisfied.



I think this needs to be rephrased ...


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:33 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:57 am
Posts: 280
Location: North Vancouver, BC, CA
...hilarious, I think,it should be left as is.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Magnepan Madness
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:49 am
Posts: 113
Location: Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures, QC, CA
malthuse wrote:
...hilarious, I think,it should be left as is.

+1 :lol:

_________________
I like gear and good sound but in the end it’s all about music.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: nomis96 and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group