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 Post subject: Re: Great POP songs?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:11 am 
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Many artists have that formula....eg King Crimson. So the formula does not make it pop. I think 21st century Century Schizoid man qualifies, but mum and dad would never let you play it at home.

What Stone said that I do agree with is the song was purposefully released on Single as a potential Pop hit. It is documented that Floyd did exactly that with Arnold Layne.

A quick view through the 45's available in the era shows some doozies. eg. Genesis Watcher of the Skies, you know what I like etc. All bands took a "hit" from their LP releases to help market the LP. So the attempt to sell singles alone does not pop make. It must be purposefully made to be played over a radio station that featured Pop music.

Here is a chum chart from 1967. And I am sure Satisfaction made it at some point, so I'll take that one back.

3 2 Tremeloes, The Here Comes My Baby 5
4 1 James, Tommy & The Shondells Mirage 5
5 3 Everly Brothers, The Bowling Green 6
7 15 Jon & Robin Do It Again A Little Bit Slower 3
8 27 Turtles, The She'd Rather Be With Me 2
9 5 Dino, Desi & Billy Two In The Afternoon 5
12 37 Association, The Windy 2
13 9 Young Rascals, The Groovin' 7
13 12 Temptations, The All I Need 3
14 35 Jefferson Airplane Somebody To Love 2
15 33 McKenzie, Scott San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair) 2
15 10 Franklin, Aretha Respect 6
16 11 Jaye, Jerry My Girl Josephine 5
16 17 Pitney, Gene Tremblin' 3
17 20 Fifth Estate, The Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead 3
18 6 Revere, Paul & The Raiders Him Or Me-What's It Gonna Be? 8
19 36 Ian, Janis Society's Child (Baby I've Been Thinking) 1
19 4 Mamas & The Papas, The Creeque Alley 7
21 30 Music Explosion, The Little Bit O' Soul 3
23 32 Spanky & Our Gang Sunday Will Never Be The Same 2
25 18 Humperdinck, Engelbert Release Me (And Let Me Love Again) 10
25 26 Davis Group, Spencer Every Little Bit Hurts 2
27 39 Morrison, Van Brown-Eyed Girl 1
30 44 Rivers, Johnny Tracks Of My Tears, The 1
31 22 Shaw, Sandie Puppet On A String 5
33 41 Clark, Petula Don't Sleep In The Subway 1
34 28 Smith, Whistlin' Jack I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman 9
36 26 Diamond, Neil Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon 8
36 45 Jones, Tom Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings 1
37 0 Gore, Lesley Summer And Sandy 0
38 20 Purify, James & Bobby Shake A Tail Feather 7
39 24 Peaches & Herb Close Your Eyes 8
39 0 Wonder, Stevie I Was Made To Love Her 0
40 48 Grass Roots, The Let's Live For Today 1
41 35 Happenings, The I Got Rhythm 9
41 0 Four Seasons, The C'mon Marianne 0
42 0 Fifth Dimension, The Up-Up And Away 0
44 24 Presley, Elvis Long Legged Girl (With A Short Dress) 3
45 0 Four Tops, The Seven Rooms Of Gloom 0
46 29 Conley, Arthur Sweet Soul Music 12
47 31 Supremes, The Happening, The 10
47 0 Every Mothers' Son Come On Down To My Boat 0
49 0 A Passing Fancy You're Going Out Of My Mind 0
49 32 Mandala Give And Take 7
50 34 Sinatra, Nancy Somethin' Stupid 12

And a link to some more.... note just how sanitized is the majority of the music...

http://wp1050chumto.blogspot.com/2011/08/chum-charts-1968-top-hits-weekly-part-3.html

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...yeah...every rule has its exceptions...King Crimson were on Top of The Pops several times...jus' sayin... :D

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Stone wrote:
...yeah...every rule has its exceptions...King Crimson were on Top of The Pops several times...jus' sayin... :D


So was The Exploited. Given the success of the Dead Cities single and their debut studio album "Punk’s Not Dead", the band did reach a pop(ular) level in the UK to which they were criticized by those within the punk culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4schmR1Nc4

There is the pop genre to which many artists fall into. But an artist does not have to fall under that genre to have a pop hit.


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...agreed...I don't think Floyd ever imagined Money would be a radio "hit"...nor Zep with Stairway to Heaven...

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sthomas1049 wrote:
There is the pop genre to which many artists fall into. But an artist does not have to fall under that genre to have a pop hit.


Exactly.

It's a chicken and egg thing.... Is it pop because it sold, or did it sell because it's pop?

No one would say the Pink Floyd DSOTM is Pop. But it sold like crazy. Money went to #13 on the billboard singles chart.

Everyone would say that Michael Jackson "Thiller" is Pop. And it sold like crazy.

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Nick Lowe-Shake and Pop.
[Verse 1]
They went and cut the record, the record hit the chart
And someone in the newspaper said it "was art"
Disco Cassanova said "it's heavy on the riff"
The local teeny bopper band was playin' it to death

[Chorus]
Shake and pop, shake and pop
Shake and pop, shake and pop

[Verse 2]
The telephones are ringing, the boys are getting hot
They're jetting out to Rio and some other sunny spots
Some senoritas say "The singers sound terrific"
Their personal appearances are stopping the shops

[Chorus]

[Bridge]
Hey long distance its a rock and roll romance
CBS is going to pay a great big advance
Hey Atlantic come on take chance
Arista say they "love you but the kids can't dance to it"

[Verse 3]
They cut another record, it never was a hit
And someone in the newspaper said it "was ****"
The drummer is a bookie, the singer is a whore
The bass player's selling clothes he never would have wore

-- 15 Aug 2018 18:42 --

Nick Lowe-Shake and Pop.
https://youtu.be/UsILZnH0oO4

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...Ok...I feel bad that "Great Pop songs?" was turned into "what makes or constitutes a great pop song?" ...my bad... :D

...another great pop song...

Don't Dream It's Over

There is freedom within, there is freedom without
Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead, many battles are lost
But you'll never see the end of the road
While you're traveling with me

Hey now, hey now
Don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
We know they won't win

Now I'm towing my car, there's a hole in the roof
My possessions are causing me suspicion but there's no proof
In the paper today tales of war and of waste
But you turn right over to the T.V. page

Hey now, hey now
Don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
We know they won't win

Now I'm walking again to the beat of a drum
And I'm counting the steps to the door of your heart
Only shadows ahead barely clearing the roof
Get to know the feeling of liberation and release

Hey now, hey now
Don't dream it's over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
We know they won't win

Don't let them win (hey now, hey now, hey now, hey now)
Hey now, hey now
Don't let them win (they come, they come)
Don't let them win (hey now, hey now, hey now, hey now)



Songwriters: Neil Finn

Don't Dream It's Over lyrics © Kobalt Music Publishing Ltd.



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this just came across a station I am listening to.
I think it fits the subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtA1UytzGc


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Great discussion between Erik and Stone. I can see both views but in keeping with the OP definition of a catchy, singable summer pop song, here's one from my childhood I never forgot. Warning! Earworms may be imminent...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ICkWjdQuK7Q

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Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini
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Brian Hyland

She was afraid to come out of the locker
She was as nervous as she could be
She was afraid to come out of the locker
She was afraid that somebody would see
One, two, three, four, tell the people what she wore

It was an itsy, bitsy, teenie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini
That she wore for the first time today
An itsy, bitsy, teentie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini
So in the locker she wanted to stay
Two, three, four, stick around we'll tell you more

She was afraid to come out in the open
And so a blanket around she wore
She was afraid to come out in the open
And so she sat bundled up on the shore
Two, three, four, tell the people what she wore

It was an itsy, bitsy, teenie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini
That she wore for the first time today
An itsy, bitsy, teentie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini
So in the blanket she wanted to stay
Two, three, four, stick around we'll tell you more

Now she is afraid to come out of the water
And I wonder what she's gonna do
Now she is afraid to come out of the water
And the poor little girl's turning blue
Two, three, four, tell the people what she wore

It was an itsy, bitsy, teenie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini
That she wore for the first time today
An itsy, bitsy, teentie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini
So in the water she wanted to stay
(From the locker to the blanket)
(From the blanket to the shore)
(From the shore to the water)
Yes, there isn't any more

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I can see both views but in keeping with the OP definition of a catchy, singable summer pop song


What i have learned from this is that what is a pop song varies, to me and my ilk (old fogies) it is the radio single from 60's/70's/80's when radio play was big stuff and people drove giant convertibles.

to younger people not so much i suspect. but i stand by my statement that while lyrics are important a catchy tune is essential (da da da), otherwise bob dylan would be the greatest pop artist ever..for example:

In comes the blind commissioner
they've got him in a trance
one hand is tied to the tightrope walker
the other is in his pants

or Her profession's her religion, her sin is her lifelessness

and my personal fav;

Sweet Melinda, the peasants call her the goddess of gloom
She speaks good English and she invites you up into her room
And you're so kind and careful not to go to her too soon
And she takes your voice and leaves you howling at the moon

bob was king of the vignette...

Off topic but the rhino billboard chart CD's with hits from that year have excellent sound if a bit thin on content..
and thanks for the links all, found some new songs to hum at the cottage


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The Ballroom Blitz

Glams finest pop song.
Starts off with that distinctive train drum lick.
"Are you ready Steve?"
One of those songs that doesn't have an ending...just fades out.


Blinded by the Light

My favorite tune in the summer of 76.
Springsteen cover
"Wrapped up like a douche" LOL


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Here's one I think fits the bill, nice harmonies for the folks and a touch of sitar for the kids stoned on the rug.

https://youtu.be/ivBqA8p9r6Q


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Does this count? Jim Ed Brown had a huge hit with, Pop a top . :lol:


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Rod Stewart Every Beat Of My Heart from 1986!!


Through these misty eyes
I see lonely skies
Lonely road to Babylon
Where's my family
And my country
Heaven knows where I belong
Pack my bags tonight
Here's one Jacobite
Who must leave or surely die
Put me on a train
In the pouring rain
Say farewell but don't say goodbye
Seagull carry me, over land and sea
To my own folk, that's where I want to be
Every beat of my heart
Tears me further apart
I'm lost and alone in the dark
I'm going home
One more glass of wine
Just for auld lang syne
And the girl I left behind
How I miss her now
In my darkest hour
And the way our arms entwine
Seagull carry me, over land and sea
To my own folk, that's where I want to be
Every beat of my heart
Tears me further apart
I'm lost and alone in the dark
I'm going home
And we'll drink a toast
To the blood red rose
Cheer a while the Emerald Isle
And to the northern lights
And the swirling pipes
How they make a grown man cry
Seagull carry me, over land and sea
To my own folk, that's where I want to be
Every beat of my heart
Tears me further apart
I'm lost and alone in the dark
I'm going home
Every beat of my heart
Tears me further apart
I'm lost and alone in the dark
I'm going home

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Talking Heads, - Psycho Killer, Take me to the river, Once in a lifetime.

Martha and the Muffins - Echo Beach

Michael Jackson - Billie Jean, Beat it, etc.

Madonna - Lucky star, Like a virgin.

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