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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:50 am 
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I occasionally like a bit of bass boost when listening to certain gendres of music through my (admittedly modest) head-fi rig.

For the record, the rig is Windows 10, 16/44 or 24/96 FLAC files, Windows Groove music player, to Fiio Alpen amp/DAC...to B&W P5, Series 2 phones.

I can apply bass boost EITHER via the equalizer in the Groove player, OR......the "equalizer" built into the Fiio amp/DAC.

Does it really matter (at this level) which I use...………...along as I don't use BOTH?

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Just don't blow out your ears.

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Alec_124c41 wrote:
Just don't blow out your ears.

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Too late, I'm already half deaf. :(

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:54 pm 
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What types of equalization are available on those units, fixed frequency graphics or parametrics?
Try to determine the area of the audible spectrum that requires attention and apply the filter that best addresses it.


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Bass boost is required at lower listening levels. That's what the "loudness" button was for on old school preamps and receivers.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:45 pm 
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The MID-BASS frequencies could handle a bit of boost from time to time.

On the devices mentioned, the equalization is simply fixed frequency graphics., not parametric.

I, not the volume knob, will determine when bass boost is required, not exclusively at low volumes. I find it is song-dependant.

Tx for the input.

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del Sol wrote:

I, not the volume knob, will determine when bass boost is required, not exclusively at low volumes. I find it is song-dependant.

Cheers, del Sol


Well sure, i guess it all boils down to personal taste (but then why ask other people's opinion??), but technically speaking, the Fletcher-Munson curve is determining when one needs to boost frequencies to achieve a perceived flat response. And the lower the volume, the more this is necessary.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:12 am 
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del Sol,

Use whichever one achieves the best results for you. It would depend on which frequencies are available to be adjusted, there may even be overlap between the two devices. You may find one device can be adjusted more conveniently than the other.

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Does any of the units offer the option to dither?
If you manipulate a digital file dither should be applied.

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I'd use the Fiio if it were me. Simple to execute, and easy to disable on a song by song basis.

Bass is a personal choice! I have a remote volume control on the subwoofer in my car for that very reason.

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mcgsxr wrote:
I'd use the Fiio if it were me. Simple to execute, and easy to disable on a song by song basis.

Bass is a personal choice! I have a remote volume control on the subwoofer in my car for that very reason.



Thanks, I will use the Fiio, as it is much more "flexible".................the equalizer in Groove music player is much more "generic", and was merely a fairly recent add-on by Mr. Microsoft.


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albinosquirlz wrote:
Bass boost is required at lower listening levels. That's what the "loudness" button was for on old school preamps and receivers.
Yeah, and that's just what it was used for :wink: ...

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Audiois1st wrote:
del Sol,

Use whichever one achieves the best results for you. It would depend on which frequencies are available to be adjusted, there may even be overlap between the two devices. You may find one device can be adjusted more conveniently than the other.

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I check settings to see if they have a defeat, then click to bypass one EQ. That way you can see which you prefer best. And leave the other shut down. I don't think its wise to have two going is it? Some of them tend to work against each other and that could result in some hair pulling when it just wont tune to sound right.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:16 pm 
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OP here...…....

I ended up turning OFF the "equalizer" in Windows Groove Media Player, and using a SMALL amount of mid-bass boost (2dB+-), in my Fiio E17 amp/DAC...….when I feel the need for it.

Works for me!

Tx for the reply. del Sol


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