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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:05 pm 
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I have a case of thick in the head to-day so I'm asking for some help. And once you see the picture you'll get the idea of what I'm up against.
If these ES22s had everyday normal 5way type binding posts I'd have the jumpers built in mere minutes.
But noooooooooooo. Not with these!

Help me find some banana plugs that can stack bananas or spades. I'm just not seeing what I really want via Google images. I could do it with certain versions of 'stackable' plugs but that would necessitate some bare wire and I'm not sure I want to go there.

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I'll want to come out of the amp into the top (tweeter) - jump from there to the next one down (middle - midrange) and from there to the next down (bottom - LF driver).

These speakers will likely be up for sale in a while and I'd care to include this tri-wire loom for the new owner - just to save him/her some grief.

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These banana/spade adapter plugs from Axiom Audio might do the trick.

https://www.axiomaudio.com/banana-plug

You would still need short spade terminated jumpers between the plugs though.


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Just realized you want to stack bananas or spades. Disregard my post!


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Hi,

Oh boy. Epos must have been having an off day when they fitted those banana input sockets on the se22. They are the same input sockets that Exposure uses on the back of their 2010 and 3010 amps for speaker connections and, IMHO, they are complete rubbish.

First, the sockets are too wobbly and loose and it is necessary to find banana jacks to fit that have some spring in them, with leaves that will actually grab the barrel of the input socket. Second, they are unforgiveable if you are using stiff speaker wire, such as solid core wire, which i prefer. I have to check them all the time because the slightest movement of the amp will encourage them to pop out.

The real solution is to open the speaker cabinets and replace them, but that is unlikely, so just beware that the jumper wire you select to link the banana jacks together should be as 'supple and flexible' as you can find and the banana jacks themselves should be a little larger than standard, if you can find them. I wouldn't spend big bucks on rodium-priced banana jacks. Just the standard types at electronic depots will do, but a screw fitting for attaching the wire is less hassle than soldering.

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That's the gist of it. Good start!

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These banana/spade adapter plugs from Axiom Audio might do the trick.

https://www.axiomaudio.com/banana-plug

You would still need short spade terminated jumpers between the plugs though.

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To save the new owner some grief just include the factory plates.
When I owned m22i's I went biwire....
One run to tweet and paired the 2 drivers.
Stacking banana plugs imo is not the best termination route.

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Binky - "just include the factory plates."

And what plates would that be? I know not what of you speak.

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whoops my bad - had the m22i's on the brain.

anyhoo. spade to banana adapters are most always stackable. buy a dozen and use 4 strips of solid core copper to bridge the 3 together for single run or bridge a pair for biwire.

imagine the red wire the copper wire - I used a stripped chunk from some scrap 14-2.

sorry...long day, kinda burnt lol!!


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or do this if no bare wire?


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That's what I did when I first got the 22s - but, really, it wasn't very attractive and I didn't think it sounded all that great.
Then I built a tri-wire out of a 3 braid Cat6e - 2 pair to the tweets, 4 to the mids and 6 to the LF. Sounded better but looked like crap - even my wife said it did!

So now it's about building something that looks a bit on the professionally attractive side. Maybe I'll give Derek at EuroProducts and poke and see if he has any ideas.

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whoops my bad - had the m22i's on the brain.

anyhoo. spade to banana adapters are most always stackable. buy a dozen and use 4 strips of solid core copper to bridge the 3 together for single run or bridge a pair for biwire.

imagine the red wire the copper wire - I used a stripped chunk from some scrap 14-2.

sorry...long day, kinda burnt lol!!

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there's only so many ways to connect the dots...

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