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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:47 am 
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I think it's what they ship snake oil in ?

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I think it's what they ship snake oil in ?


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Guys, to each his own. The question from the OP was clearly posted because of a CAM ad from someone who has been a member a long time and who actively participates in the forums. Maybe a *bit* of diplomacy is in order?


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I am OK with undisputed dispute mechanisms, but I really hate to dispute undisputed dispute mechanisms.

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guzziguy56 wrote:
I think it's what they ship snake oil in ?


Best answer yet!

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Tangram wrote:
Guys, to each his own. The question from the OP was clearly posted because of a CAM ad from someone who has been a member a long time and who actively participates in the forums. Maybe a *bit* of diplomacy is in order?


Then maybe he will weigh in and tell us exactly what improvements it makes, and why he is selling such a remarkable device.

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All I can say is that I aspire to owning a system so revolving that I need this sort of stuff to improve the sound of said system.

Jeez, I hope your system doesn't revolve. It'd be a bugger getting to the turntable to put a record on. :wink: :mrgreen:


Would the platter spin at 66.66 or 0 rpm?
I guess it would depend on if the system is revolving clockwise or ….. :lol:


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All I can say is that I aspire to owning a system so revolving that I need this sort of stuff to improve the sound of said system.

Jeez, I hope your system doesn't revolve. It'd be a bugger getting to the turntable to put a record on. :wink: :mrgreen:


Would the platter spin at 66.66 or 0 rpm?
I guess it would depend on if the system is revolving clockwise or ….. :lol:


Heh heh. Resolve.


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What (on earth) is a "grounding box" ?


it appears to be a wooden box with a wire going in and a wire going out.

What an amazing concept!


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RalphH wrote:
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What (on earth) is a "grounding box" ?


it appears to be a wooden box with a wire going in and a wire going out.

What an amazing concept!


There is no wire going out, just in...


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Wow. A lot of non believers posting here. I am not an electrical engineer or anything, but I do understand the theory behind a grounding box and it is not all that complicated. Noise enters your stereo system through the ground. The cleaner the ground the less noise in the system. This is why your system might sound better late at night, with the lights off, less demand on the power grid equals less noise on the ground. Also static electricity can build up on various electronics in your system and this static contributes to the noise on the ground as it is dissipated through the ground. A grounding box is supposed to provide your system with a ground that is superior to the ground supplied by your houses electrical wiring, therefore cleaning up the ground and lowering the noise floor on your system. From the Nordost demo I attended earlier this year I know that Nordost's line of ground boxes turns the energy it receives from the system into vibrations in order to dissipate the energy. What other boxes do I have no idea, but they all must dissipate the energy somehow to be effective. And they have to be more efficient at it than your house wiring, to hear the difference.

What every you think of grounding boxes is on you, my theory is if I can hear a difference, and I like the difference, then that's good enough for me, and I have heard the difference.

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johnww wrote:
it is an antenna to introduce noise into your system.
Yep. Tested and measured. But hey, at least we know it does something... :lol:

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Tangram wrote:
Guys, to each his own. The question from the OP was clearly posted because of a CAM ad from someone who has been a member a long time and who actively participates in the forums. Maybe a *bit* of diplomacy is in order?



Seems you are well grounded in faith-based audio and membership in clubs. Good for you!


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This works better than a grounding box . The Himalayan Salt Lamp.


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Gerhard Roemer wrote:
This works better than a grounding box . The Himalayan Salt Lamp.

I have one of those for each speaker in a mono block configuration. I don't want any noise leak from one salt lamp into another


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...oh...and...IMHO...this discussion should not be subject to the same "rules" as cables...jus' sayin'... :mrgreen:

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Flash wrote:
Wow. A lot of non believers posting here. I am not an electrical engineer or anything, but I do understand the theory behind a grounding box and it is not all that complicated.
Noise enters your stereo system through the ground. The cleaner the ground the less noise in the system...
+1

By far the best answer to the OP question.

However, most of the times, it's not the home ground that is faulty but the
poorly designed component(s) with their mini-micro paths to the return ground.
But with some R&D about power supplies, I found out that there's a way to solve this completely.

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Nakamichel wrote:
Flash wrote:
Wow. A lot of non believers posting here. I am not an electrical engineer or anything, but I do understand the theory behind a grounding box and it is not all that complicated.
Noise enters your stereo system through the ground. The cleaner the ground the less noise in the system...
+1

By far the best answer to the OP question.

However, most of the times, it's not the home ground that is faulty but the
poorly designed component(s) with their mini-micro paths to the return ground.
But with some R&D about power supplies, I found out that there's a way to solve this completely.


...for a lot less than 8k I imagine...

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As long as there are people who are more interested in obsessive tweaking than actually listening to music, there will be no shortage of little boxes designed to separate them from their money.

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