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 Post subject: Re: CBC music streams
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 11:29 pm 
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Audio_Guy wrote:
Is it OK to say how f'd up the Canadian Government and everything they do is?

If anyone can get a URL from the CBC streaming sites pls let me know and I will retract the line above.

It appears you need flash to listen to Radio Canada. Which leaves out all other software apps for music.
I'd gladly trade you for the clowns we have down here in the USA!!


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 Post subject: Re: CBC music streams
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 1:05 am 
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Has anyone found a solution for this yet? These work http://www.cbc.ca/radio/includes/stream.html but they are not the music urls for the specific music genres found here... https://www.cbcmusic.ca/

There is suppose to be a way to get music urls from inspecting elements or using software such as URL Snooper but I have never been able to figure it out.


I doubt this is possible with the way the current site is implemented... the "streams" are not a simple channel that you connect to, but are assembled from an interactive conversation between the code running in your browser and the back end, hosted by Akamai. There are restrictions on where it can be played (geolocation) and only a request generated from a browser on cbcmusic.ca is accepted. Each "song" is requested specifically, in segments, and the conversation between the back end and the code running in your browser enables your browser to request each piece of music in turn, and assemble it for seamless local playback. All of this is presumably because of the need for control, as a consequence of the limited rights CBC is granted by the rights holders. Music that might not be subject to the same limitations ends up being treated the same way, simply because it's how the platform works.

The Radio streams are different, because they aren't subject to the same rights-driven limitations.

This is all unfortunate for the person that just wants to listen to the CBC Music streams, in the way that is most convenient, and with the best possible quality, but it is playable anywhere you have a modern web browser, including mobile devices, assuming you're connecting with an IP seen to be within Canada. You can use a modest computer, tablet, or smartphone as a streaming host, and feed the audio (digitally, or analogue) to other gear for playback.


Here's an edited snippet from the conversation...

Code:
Request URL: https://webradios-vh.akamaihd.net/i/wam/a-e/bachconcertosandsinfoniasforoboe/0003bbfc_,64,128,.mp4.csmil/master.m3u8?hdnea=st=1526201055~exp=1526201175~acl=/i/wam/a-e/bachconcertosandsinfoniasforoboe/0003bbfc_*~hmac=d9d6e90326b2247a59b799121cf0aab03e3ee2e77e4152a4506d2cafd079693d
Request Method: GET
Status Code: 200 OK
Remote Address: 207.228.83.24:443
Access-Control-Allow-Credentials: true
Access-Control-Allow-Headers: *
Access-Control-Allow-Methods: GET, HEAD, OPTIONS
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: https://www.cbcmusic.ca
Access-Control-Expose-Headers: *
Cache-Control: no-store
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 959
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 08:44:19 GMT
Expires: Sun, 13 May 2018 08:44:19 GMT
Mime-Version: 1.0
Pragma: no-cache
Server: AkamaiGHost
Accept: */*
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
Connection: keep-alive
DNT: 1
Host: webradios-vh.akamaihd.net
Origin: https://www.cbcmusic.ca
Referer: https://www.cbcmusic.ca/music-streams


and here’s the request for the first segment of this piece. I’ve seen up to 70 segments in a single piece of music.


Request URL: https://webradios-vh.akamaihd.net/i/wam/a-e/bachconcertosandsinfoniasforoboe/0003bbfc_,64,128,.mp4.csmil/segment1_1_a.ts?null=0&id=AgAXEXq%2fz+RTFOL691rE2obKtsVIaan8sQhEWfr7cHQF85dIikgmU8LWZZycDX0PGdO7zNr2cVYEYQ%3d%3d&hdntl=exp=1526287458~acl=/i/wam/a-e/bachconcertosandsinfoniasforoboe/0003bbfc_*~data=hdntl~hmac=01e08ce5f01d86b339165fa7623a988628a39c6fe80a31bfb64d9f751ff341d8
Request Method: GET
Status Code: 200 OK
Remote Address: 207.228.83.24:443
Access-Control-Allow-Credentials: true
Access-Control-Allow-Headers: *
Access-Control-Allow-Methods: GET, HEAD, OPTIONS
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: https://www.cbcmusic.ca
Access-Control-Expose-Headers: *
Cache-Control: no-store
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 171840
Content-Type: video/MP2T
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 08:44:19 GMT
Expires: Sun, 13 May 2018 08:44:19 GMT
Mime-Version: 1.0
Pragma: no-cache
Server: AkamaiGHost
Set-Cookie: _alid_=k/TtlrtuOJ4gckWwDaH3SA==; path=/i/wam/a-e/bachconcertosandsinfoniasforoboe/0003bbfc_,64,128,.mp4.csmil/; domain=webradios-vh.akamaihd.net
Accept: */*
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
Accept-Language: en-CA,en-GB;q=0.9,en;q=0.8,en-US;q=0.7,fr-CA;q=0.6,fr;q=0.5
Connection: keep-alive
DNT: 1
Host: webradios-vh.akamaihd.net
Origin: https://www.cbcmusic.ca
Referer: https://www.cbcmusic.ca/music-streams



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 Post subject: Re: CBC music streams
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:29 am 
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Well that explains it better, thanks Syncytial. My situation is a little different in that I design my own music widgets for my computer. It's not a matter of just using CBC's own site to stream music, it's that I want the playable urls so I can input them in my own designs. I can find plenty of radio stations (some with better quality) that work so it is not a big deal however it would still be nice to have the CBC option.
I contacted CBC about it but it was just a waist of time, I figured it would be but gave it a shot anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:55 am 
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canuckken wrote:
Well that explains it better, thanks Syncytial. My situation is a little different in that I design my own music widgets for my computer. It's not a matter of just using CBC's own site to stream music, it's that I want the playable urls so I can input them in my own designs. I can find plenty of radio stations (some with better quality) that work so it is not a big deal however it would still be nice to have the CBC option.
I contacted CBC about it but it was just a waist of time, I figured it would be but gave it a shot anyway.

Cheers :)


Yes, so can I. There are plenty of no fuss classical music streams out there for free with great content and pretty good quality. The CBC are just another branch of F*heads from our federal government which I believe to be entirely comprised of F*heads.

There are even individual cities that do a much better job than the a-holes from Ottawa. Check out this one from Venice:

http://174.36.206.197:8000/stream

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:07 pm 
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Audio_Guy wrote:
canuckken wrote:
Well that explains it better, thanks Syncytial. My situation is a little different in that I design my own music widgets for my computer. It's not a matter of just using CBC's own site to stream music, it's that I want the playable urls so I can input them in my own designs. I can find plenty of radio stations (some with better quality) that work so it is not a big deal however it would still be nice to have the CBC option.
I contacted CBC about it but it was just a waist of time, I figured it would be but gave it a shot anyway.

Cheers :)


Yes, so can I. There are plenty of no fuss classical music streams out there for free with great content and pretty good quality. The CBC are just another branch of F*heads from our federal government which I believe to be entirely comprised of F*heads.

There are even individual cities that do a much better job than the a-holes from Ottawa. Check out this one from Venice:

http://174.36.206.197:8000/stream


Nice stream Audio_Guy, thanks for that.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:23 pm 
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I can get a huge number of CBC streams from https://www.cbcmusic.ca/music-streams
Side scroll on each genre and there is a lot to choose from.

And for the F'head - where would you rather live and why aren't you there?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:47 pm 
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Audio_Guy wrote:
canuckken wrote:
Well that explains it better, thanks Syncytial. My situation is a little different in that I design my own music widgets for my computer. It's not a matter of just using CBC's own site to stream music, it's that I want the playable urls so I can input them in my own designs. I can find plenty of radio stations (some with better quality) that work so it is not a big deal however it would still be nice to have the CBC option.
I contacted CBC about it but it was just a waist of time, I figured it would be but gave it a shot anyway.

Cheers :)


Yes, so can I. There are plenty of no fuss classical music streams out there for free with great content and pretty good quality. The CBC are just another branch of F*heads from our federal government which I believe to be entirely comprised of F*heads.

There are even individual cities that do a much better job than the a-holes from Ottawa. Check out this one from Venice:

http://174.36.206.197:8000/stream


-- 20 Sep 2018 21:49 --

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Audio_Guy wrote:
canuckken wrote:
Well that explains it better, thanks Syncytial. My situation is a little different in that I design my own music widgets for my computer. It's not a matter of just using CBC's own site to stream music, it's that I want the playable urls so I can input them in my own designs. I can find plenty of radio stations (some with better quality) that work so it is not a big deal however it would still be nice to have the CBC option.
I contacted CBC about it but it was just a waist of time, I figured it would be but gave it a shot anyway.

Cheers :)


Yes, so can I. There are plenty of no fuss classical music streams out there for free with great content and pretty good quality. The CBC are just another branch of F*heads from our federal government which I believe to be entirely comprised of F*heads.

There are even individual cities that do a much better job than the a-holes from Ottawa. Check out this one from Venice:

http://174.36.206.197:8000/stream


+1 :D

Nice stream Audio_Guy, thanks for that.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:09 pm 
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[quote="zelgall"]I can get a huge number of CBC streams from https://www.cbcmusic.ca/music-streams
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This url worked great on my Windows 7 PC. Thanks to the contributors!

Does anyone know how to get these CBC streams into a Cambridge Stream Magic 6, or from the W7 PC to the Stream Magic? Or does anyone definitely know that this is impossible? I am using wifi to connect both units to Spotify and it is working fine.....but Spotify offers a "Devices Available" menu.

If this is not possible I do not want to spend anymore time attempting it and Dr. Google has not helped. (I can find my way around a computer, but do not have programming skills.)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:07 am 
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OP here,

I never got it to work. I ended up listening to radio station streams of NPR (American public radio, go figure) as well as Spotify, both streamed to multiple players in my Squeezebox setup.

An alternative would be to use airplay players and an iPad as a source but despite plugins for this in the Squeezebox system, I cannot get it to work. :(

I regularly listen to All Classical Portland:
https://www.allclassical.org/listen-help/

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:31 am 
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OP here,

I never got it to work. I ended up listening to radio station streams of NPR (American public radio, go figure) as well as Spotify, both streamed to multiple players in my Squeezebox setup.

An alternative would be to use airplay players and an iPad as a source but despite plugins for this in the Squeezebox system, I cannot get it to work. :(

I regularly listen to All Classical Portland:
https://www.allclassical.org/listen-help/

Cheers!


I think you may like these as well from Greece, they each stream at 320 Kb/s.

https://stream.psychomed.gr/

Audiophile Classical: http://8.38.78.173:8093/stream

Audiophile Baroque: http://8.38.78.173:8045/stream

I have to ask again, why can't the fck heads in Ottawa provide the same type of music streaming service ?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:53 am 
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Audio_Guy wrote:

I think you may like these as well from Greece, they each stream at 320 Kb/s.

https://stream.psychomed.gr/

Audiophile Classical: http://8.38.78.173:8093/stream

Audiophile Baroque: http://8.38.78.173:8045/stream

I have to ask again, why can't the fck heads in Ottawa provide the same type of music streaming service ?

Many thanks for the great links!

My answer is that when forced to be "more commercial" they likely hired a marketing VP who suggested locking the streams to apps so that advertising can be implemented later.

My oped, sorry the soapbox is calling me : When we cut and put pressure on public organisations, we should envisage the final outcome rather than only the short term. For example, cutting fundamental science, the nursery for high-impact researchers and the cornerstone for the application of science in fields such as engineering and pharmaceutical industries will make us less competitive in the mid-term. BTW, I am not blowing smoke outta my butt: I ran a very applied R&D org for an enormous multinational and worked in the pharma industry before that so I have seen the value of the applied part.
/offsoapbox sorry about that! :oops:

Now back to your regularly scheduled and beautiful music.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:27 pm 
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Audio_Guy wrote:
jazzbert wrote:
OP here,

I never got it to work. I ended up listening to radio station streams of NPR (American public radio, go figure) as well as Spotify, both streamed to multiple players in my Squeezebox setup.

An alternative would be to use airplay players and an iPad as a source but despite plugins for this in the Squeezebox system, I cannot get it to work. :(

I regularly listen to All Classical Portland:
https://www.allclassical.org/listen-help/

Cheers!


I think you may like these as well from Greece, they each stream at 320 Kb/s.

https://stream.psychomed.gr/

Audiophile Classical: http://8.38.78.173:8093/stream

Audiophile Baroque: http://8.38.78.173:8045/stream

I have to ask again, why can't the fck heads in Ottawa provide the same type of music streaming service ?


I'm not sure what the issue is. CBC streaming has over 20 classical streaming channels that you can access at https://www.cbcmusic.ca/music-streams Click "classical" on the header and scroll down to the classical section. It's categorized and there's good variety. Whad ya want?
Perhaps it's the F'heads in BC using Linux that are the issue here and not the ones in Ottawa. They seem to have delivered what they promised this time.


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zelgall wrote:
Audio_Guy wrote:
jazzbert wrote:
OP here,

I never got it to work. I ended up listening to radio station streams of NPR (American public radio, go figure) as well as Spotify, both streamed to multiple players in my Squeezebox setup.

An alternative would be to use airplay players and an iPad as a source but despite plugins for this in the Squeezebox system, I cannot get it to work. :(

I regularly listen to All Classical Portland:
https://www.allclassical.org/listen-help/

Cheers!


I think you may like these as well from Greece, they each stream at 320 Kb/s.

https://stream.psychomed.gr/

Audiophile Classical: http://8.38.78.173:8093/stream

Audiophile Baroque: http://8.38.78.173:8045/stream

I have to ask again, why can't the fck heads in Ottawa provide the same type of music streaming service ?


I'm not sure what the issue is. CBC streaming has over 20 classical streaming channels that you can access at https://www.cbcmusic.ca/music-streams Click "classical" on the header and scroll down to the classical section. It's categorized and there's good variety. Whad ya want?
Perhaps it's the F'heads in BC using Linux that are the issue here and not the ones in Ottawa. They seem to have delivered what they promised this time.


Such harsh words and so little understanding. Your first sentence is correct.

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Can you enlighten us as to why the multiple streams available on CBC aren't a good source? It works very well with windows 7 and 10. The site is well laid out, has a huge amount of music available and is free.
Once again; What's the issue?


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zelgall wrote:
Can you enlighten us as to why the multiple streams available on CBC aren't a good source? It works very well with windows 7 and 10. The site is well laid out, has a huge amount of music available and is free.
Once again; What's the issue?

Dedicated streamers are not equipped with a browser,(and thus are free of all the junk that comes with them). They access content through an app or directed to it through the URL. CBC doesn't provide that URL, it doesn't have its own app nor is it provided through another like Tunein.


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