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 Post subject: 30 inch widescreen crt
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:26 pm 
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Does anyone have any purchasing advice for this. This is for viewing from 6-7 ft. I have ruled out the following that I have seen in town

Inferior list -Sanyo,Advent, Samsung,JVC,cheaper Philips
Poor quality control- Sony


This leaves:
Panasonic-good detail, but needs to run at excessive contrast to produce decent blacks.
Toshiba- 30HFX84 is discontinued,now they do not make a cinema 'X' series with the wide band video amplifier.


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as i have no advice... perhaps there is reading here that can help in the manufactures forums....

I wonder why you do not want a 40 to 46 inch rpt ? Is it due to the distance or just because of what you can fit in the viewing location?


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I've the panasonic tau (HD edition, 32") and have no complaints.
BTW - maybe its the source that is the problem, not the tv's themselves.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:17 pm 
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Take a close look at Toshiba , Panasonic and JVC .
Note how well the Panasonic does the red it is not dark orange like the others .
I do all these under warranty repairs , they all break .
But these 3 seem a little better .
Prefer little bigger 16x9 ones from listed above .
Note many brands use orion tubes now , sometimes 3 differant tubes same name and model .
Easy way to check color balance , turn off color see how close to black & white , be surprised how these vary , if poor color will be too.
But like sound look at them all , judge for yourself !
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I am not saying they all have a poor picture, I was expecting the Sony to stand out, but it did not. None of the others did either. I am guessing http://www.AVGuide.com did not test the Sony in its 30 inch widescreen test because of its poor showing. This is suprising,because Sony has a much larger market share in this category, than any other company.


tescosomoa,6-7 ft. is what I have. Why would I mention it if I have 8-10 ft or over. I will gladly see CRT rptv die off because of its depth.


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Avhed,

Back in the day (late 80s, early 90s) when I used to sell TVs for a living, Sony was king. They had superior performance, excellent build quality and incredibly thin profit margins. They had an "elite" status that brought people into our stores in droves. They were only sold in "exclusive" shops which helped create the image that they were a cut above everyone else. We would always try to convince customers that there were better choices - Panasonic, Toshiba, Hitachi, etc. Sometimes we were successful (we'd make more profit if we were), sometimes not.

Today, Sony TVs are every bit "Mass Market" quality that every other brand is. You can find Sony's just about anywhere. They no longer seem to be above average.

IMO, you can't really go wrong with Toshiba or Panasonic. My Uncle sold both brands for 30+ years. He also serviced TVs and he selected those brands because they were very reliable (that meant he wouldn't have to service too many of the ones he sold).

If you find a good choice with either brand and all your requirements are satisfied, trust your eyes and pick the one that gives you the best image. Everything else should fall into place after that.


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Looking at the http://www.AVSForum.com , some posters are writing for 6-7 viewing distance,a 34 inch widescreen is the the right size. I am wondering about their vision, because at 44 yrs old my vision does not focus the way it used to, yet I can see the pixel structure of a 30 inch widescreen from 6-7 feet.


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Hey there

I bought the Sanyo 30 inch from Walmart. It was reviewed very well

Looks great

Has hdmi input

Paid $898 in Feb. I think it has gone down another $100, but I could be wrong

The service menue is easily available on-line to do all the tweeks you want

I have nothing but praise for it

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klatu00 wrote:

The service menue is easily available on-line to do all the tweeks you want


Was that at Keohi or another site?


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klatu00, I have seen the Sanyo and the colours always look poorly saturated.Have you seen most of the better coloured sets?Sony, Toshiba Cinema,and Panasonic?
Though,someone on the AVSForum did highly recommend the Sanyo.


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I have the Service Manual for the Sanyo HT 30744 in a .pdf file if anyone wants one

Can't remember the site

If you type in Goggle the model number, a number of sitescome up including one that talks about all the tweeks. I think if I remember right it starts around #16. the first three pages of the .pdf focuses on that

Besides, the guarantee is great seeing that no one will repair this set in Canada because it's not sold here and the ones Walmart have come from the States through Walmart
Therefore they would be obliged to give you a new one if something went wrong

This set also has a HD tuner in it. Don't know if the other ones have that
Looked at the other ones but ,for the price difference, and fatures, probably the best buy

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LG.Philips is going to put out a slim 30" widescreen CRT in the fall. It will be interesting to see if they did a better job than the Samsung TX-R3079WH & TX-R3080WH in minimalizing the perimeter distortions.
The LG is only 14" deep vs. the 16" of the Samsungs. http://www.samsung.com
These sets look way better, decor wise than any CRTs ever made.


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Make sure when comparing tv's that you are comparing them set to the same color temperature. NTSC standard is 6500K. A lot of makers set them at the factory to 9300K so the picture "jumps out" at you in the store under various kinds of high intensity store lighting (like at BB where you need sunglasses inside), and appears to have a sharper and brighter picture. If the salesman who is serving you doesn't know about color temp, go to a dealer who does. You can normally access the color temp adjustment in the set up menu, but sometimes they hide this feature in the service menu. Once you have made your choice, you can always go into the service menu at home and adjust other things like the G2's etc., to custom the picture to your ambient lighting situation and your eye's.

This is helpful, if you dare!

http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/how2adj.html

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Yaukui wrote:
Make sure when comparing tv's that you are comparing them set to the same color temperature. NTSC standard is 6500K. A lot of makers set them at the factory to 9300K so the picture "jumps out" at you in the store under various kinds of high intensity store lighting (like at BB where you need sunglasses inside), and appears to have a sharper and brighter picture. If the salesman who is serving you doesn't know about color temp, go to a dealer who does. You can normally access the color temp adjustment in the set up menu, but sometimes they hide this feature in the service menu. Once you have made your choice, you can always go into the service menu at home and adjust other things like the G2's etc., to custom the picture to your ambient lighting situation and your eye's.

This is helpful, if you dare!

http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/how2adj.html

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Hows that going to happen, nobody has published your phone number - we don't even know your real name. You could in reality be a famous person - that is more famous than "Yaukui". Maybe you don't live in Canada - but live in Beverly Hills !

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Maybe you don't live in Canada - but live in Beverly Hills !


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