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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:19 am 
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Weeks ago I bought a Diana Krall lp, I could not get the thing to fit the hole.
I don't know the name of it, maybe it's the shaft, but it's the turntable spindle thing that goes in the hole of the record.
I returned to the record store Sunrise.
The sales guy told me to go back home, push hard and it will fit.
I said I would never do that to my expensive Thorens turntable.
Sunrise did not give a refund but I chose another record that I am happy with and I do enjoy it.
I don't know if there is a good way to make the hole bigger, possibly a drill, but I did not want to drill Diana.
Is this happening to others?
I have records from 60,s and bought many in the 70,s never had this happen, never.
Today it happened again.
I bought a Buddy Guy lp at Sunrise.
Buddy is now on the shelf.
The price paid $30.
Are these poor quality records made by some low cost low grade facility?
I never had issues with records bought from Amazon.
Anybody experience this?


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:25 am 
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I've experienced it once in a while, with records both new & old. I just take a pair of needle-nose pliers & insert-and-turn them in the spindle-hole of the LP a few times. Just gently back-and-forth & voila, spindle happiness. Works every time.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:32 am 
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"I did not want to drill Diana"
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Old Rusty wrote:
I've experienced it once in a while, with records both new & old. I just take a pair of needle-nose pliers & insert-and-turn them in the spindle-hole of the LP a few times. Just gently back-and-forth & voila, spindle happiness. Works every time.
:idea:

This needle nose trick is something I do as well, and it works without compromising the record.
As a record store owner, the advice of just pushing down hard on it is one of the most ignorant things I've heard about records. That guy must own a Crosley.
I've also noticed that due to the overwhelming demand for vinyl these days, combined with the lack of knowledgeable people at pressing plants, pressings have almost dropped to the level of quality we were getting in the late eighties.


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I had this problem too, and had similar advice - put some scissors in the gap and turn. I wasn't comfortable with this so found a better solution. If you order a 7.2mm drill bit - I got mine off amazon - it is the perfect width for the vinyl hole. Insert and turn until all excess plastic is removed - no chance of doing damage to the record and works like a charm. About $5 - $10 online but if you can afford vinyl it's a drop in the bucket.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:10 am 
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All spindle holes are not created equally...

I've never really seen it as a big problem. I mean, it's a flimsy piece of pvc.

That said, not all spindles are created equally... I've had some LPs fit very snug on a table, and very loose on another table. I'm sure it's completely small amounts of variation. I've also had some used LPs that were very obviously not well taken care for and the hole was huge! I like the idea of the pliers though!

Hope all is well


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I never had this problem until I got Lenco L70. Half of my records, especially newer ones fit very snugly onto its spindle.


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I just use a pencil and rotate that around inside the LP hole. For the few records that needed it, it has worked fine.


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clearaudio makes a tool specifically for this issue.
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This is a real coincidence: I recently saw a turntable-branded accessory (can't remember the brand right now) designed exactly for this purpose. It was a tapered reamer with small handle, intended to enlarge the spindle hole. Of course a drill bit or pencil would work equally well for a lot less.

EDITED TO ADD: Corby posted his photo above at the same time I was posting my message.


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Finding the hole is half my problem, but, on the plus side, it keeps me out of trouble.

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Send an email to customer service. I exchanged a defective lp recently with no issue. It's a pressing defect.

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Weeks ago I bought a Diana Krall lp, I could not get the thing to fit the hole.
I don't know the name of it, maybe it's the shaft, but it's the turntable spindle thing that goes in the hole of the record.
I returned to the record store Sunrise.
The sales guy told me to go back home, push hard and it will fit.
I said I would never do that to my expensive Thorens turntable.
Sunrise did not give a refund but I chose another record that I am happy with and I do enjoy it.
I don't know if there is a good way to make the hole bigger, possibly a drill, but I did not want to drill Diana.
Is this happening to others?
I have records from 60,s and bought many in the 70,s never had this happen, never.
Today it happened again.
I bought a Buddy Guy lp at Sunrise.
Buddy is now on the shelf.
The price paid $30.
Are these poor quality records made by some low cost low grade facility?
I never had issues with records bought from Amazon.
Anybody experience this?


Old Thorens tables from the 60's, 70's have a wider spindle than the usual size. The odd record will have the spindle hold cut that won't fit the Thorens unless you expand the hold slightly. You can use one of those 4 pointed blade devices or a drill, pushing it in the hole turn once, try to fit, one more time, try to fit on table spindle. YOu don't want that record spindle hole too large.

So technically your not Fixing A Hole like the Beatles would have you believe but expanding a hole. HA :lol:


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Thanks guys, I'll try the scissors or needle nose pliers.
The first record did have a defect. It had a deformed surface and was not uniform in thickness.


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