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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:51 am 
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Just going thru my collection of about 40 years any of these worth replacing the needle...or just start new all the way around? ADC QLM 30 mk111, audio technical AT3482p , shure 70 EJ, Shure M91ed, empire 2000, ortofon VMS3e thanks and best place to buy would also help. I have a dual 522, a pioneer PL-630 , and a Hitachi ht500


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Just going thru my collection of about 40 years any of these worth replacing the needle...or just start new all the way around? ADC QLM 30 mk111, audio technical AT3482p , shure 70 EJ, Shure M91ed, empire 2000, ortofon VMS3e thanks and best place to buy would also help. I have a dual 522, a pioneer PL-630 , and a Hitachi ht500


I have experience with the Shure M70EJ and the M91ED, both very competent cartridges with a new elliptical stylus. I can’t comment on the others.

I purchased replacement styli for the Shure cartridges from CAM member Jelloalien (Anthony). They are good quality unbranded Jico-made for a good price.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:01 am 
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Thanks I will get in touch with him


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:45 am 
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Hi,

Pick these: Shure M91ed, Ortofon VMS3e

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The Ortofon VMS series are very nice cartridges, but the last time I went to replace a stylus I pulled the body apart when I tried to remove the old needle. The rear plastic plate (with the four wire connections) is just pressed into the metal body. If the stylus is a bit stubborn, the back will pull off before the stylus comes out. I understand that the current 2M models have the same issue. I find that Shure cartridges sound pretty boring, but the M91ED is probably the best of the lot.

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My picks differ slightly from what others have suggested, but are similar enough. The Shure M-91ed is a classic as long as you go with either the standard Jico replacement or one of their enhanced styli. The original Ortofon VMS3E stylus is still available new but for a real treat, you can upgrade it with the VMS15E stylus while being aware of Quadzillas warning. I tend to prefer the ADC "house" sound myself and am currently running a QLM body with a VLM MkII stylus upgrade, easily the best and most versatile all around replacement stylus ADC made. Empire have just been out of the cartridge business for too long now for me to give you an honest recommendation on a replacement stylus for the 2000.


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My picks differ slightly from what others have suggested, but are similar enough. The Shure M-91ed is a classic as long as you go with either the standard Jico replacement or one of their enhanced styli. The original Ortofon VMS3E stylus is still available new but for a real treat, you can upgrade it with the VMS15E stylus while being aware of Quadzillas warning. I tend to prefer the ADC "house" sound myself and am currently running a QWLM body with a VLM MkII stylus upgrade, easily the best and most versatile all around replacement stylus ADC made. Empire have just been out of the cartridge business for too long now for me to give you an honest recommendation on a replacement stylus for the 2000.


If the Ortofon cartridge body is in good shape and working properly, OBI has the right idea ... a stylus upgrade is very worthwhile.

Assuming that the cartridge works OK with the original stylus, remove the old stylus and inspect the body to see if the rear plate is loose.
If the stylus comes out easily and the body is tight and working well, then I would feel comfortable ordering a new stylus for the VMS cartridge.

The Ortofon is probably the best-sounding of the bunch. Just make sure you aren't ordering a stylus for a body that is falling apart.

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I tend to prefer the moving iron type of cart so the Empire would be my choice , stylus are hard to come by but the LP gear Vivid Line stylus works nice on the 2000 /4000 carts but $80 US


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+1 for the empire

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+1 for the empire


+2 for the Empire 2000. I am a huge fan & currently rocking one on a Technics SL-B2. Find an aftermarket hyper-elliptical & you are in business.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:23 pm 
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Old Rusty wrote:
cdnduck wrote:
+1 for the empire


+2 for the Empire 2000. I am a huge fan & currently rocking one on a Technics SL-B2. Find an aftermarket hyper-elliptical & you are in business.
8)

If I could ask , what stylus is that?


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JFraser wrote:
Old Rusty wrote:
cdnduck wrote:
+1 for the empire


+2 for the Empire 2000. I am a huge fan & currently rocking one on a Technics SL-B2. Find an aftermarket hyper-elliptical & you are in business.
8)

If I could ask , what stylus is that?


If I remember correctly it's an EVG .2X.7 like this one:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Empire-S-200E-S ... 2749.l2649
That's if I remember correctly...
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Could have been this one:
https://www.lpgear.com/product/EMS2000E2.html
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Personally i’d not bother with any of those. I do have an ancient Supex i rather liked that i hav etoyed with the idea of getting a new stylus… getting a stylus i would expect would cost something like 3x what the cartridge cost new (a staggering $200 or so at the time).

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I'd add the Empire to the decent cartridges (from your list). The 2000 was a popular one.
The N91ED is indeed a classic :)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:01 am 
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Cartridges that are 40 yrs old should be left alone and kept as keepsake. Adding any money to them is a waste of time. I had an Audio technical Signet TH7SU..it was starting to sound iffy the elipical stylus was still like new. When I replace it with newer one of different make it was a clear audio difference of night and day. There is 40 years or newer improvement in cartridge devoplement . Use your spare cash to look for a new one and not trying to save something old. JMHO


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