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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:15 am 
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Hi all,
This may be a silly question but I have just acquired a pair of Bryston mini T speakers.
Now looking for an amp that will drive these speakers (WPC) as I have heard you really need a powerful amp for the speakers.
I really want to know what the wpc I need. The speakers are 4 Ohms.
I have $3000 (ish) to spend .
Thank you all in advance.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:32 am 
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A Bryston 4B ?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:41 am 
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Despite being 4 ohms and called "Mini" they are much bigger and more power hungry than a "normal" stand mount speaker.
They'll pretty much take what ever you can throw at them but there are a lot of factors to consider.
What type of music do listen to and how loud?
Diana Krall played at polite levels won't need a huge amp. Lamb of God, played at lease breaking levels will take all the power you can give them.
How big is the room?
At your price level you have a lot of options. At a minimum I'd go with at least 35 watts X 2 but don't be afraid to go much higher.
If you can't tell I really like the Mini T. and at the risk of being a fan boy Bryston amps and speakers play nicely together.
So do a few tubes amps but the combo i heard was well outside your budget.
Happy hunting.

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Ran mine with :
AMR777 : 60 watts a side
Gryphon : 100 watts a side, 200 into 4 ohm
ModWright KWI 200 : 200 a side, 400 into 4 ohm
Bryston 4Bsst2 : 300 a side, 500 into 4 ohm

All sounded really good but the Gryphon was the best so while quantity is good, quality wins out. The ModWright was second with the AMR a very close third that might have scored higher if it had a little more power to truly control the Mini T's. I bought all these amps used at a price that fits within your budget.

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Thanks all , I like more softer music . Pinkfloyd/ Roger Waters being my hard music not played at big volumes.
I was looking at Hegel , I think the Hegel 200 might be over the top then .lol
I have the option of purchasing the Bryston B135 SST2 amp I could go for that .


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:25 pm 
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paulnijs1 wrote:
Thanks all , I like more softer music . Pinkfloyd/ Roger Waters being my hard music not played at big volumes.
I was looking at Hegel , I think the Hegel 200 might be over the top then .lol
I have the option of purchasing the Bryston B135 SST2 amp I could go for that .
Maybe you should re-think about the Hegel, IMHO.
Last week I went to a shop for a shootout: Hegel 360 vs. Linn Akurate.

My goal was to compare the DAC's (bypassing Hegel's amplification). I was shocked by the result. At my great surprise, not even close.
The Hegel DAC part was unbelievable. Musical, transparent, neutral... and accurate ! lol
The Linn had a clearly thinner sound and highs were sibilant. Something like twice pricy as the Hegel.
Both played with Classé amplification and YG Carmel speakers.

At the end as the guy was removing the Linn, I asked to connect the Hegel to the Carmel.
I couldn't believe it, simply magistral ! In fact the second best integrated I ever heard after the ASR Emitter II.
Even my wife (she has Spectral/Martin-Logan CLSII) was seduced by the Hegel's sound.

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Yamaha A-S2100 or the 3000 . Both are friends of low impedance speakers . I could go on . You won’t regret it.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:27 pm 
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Nakamichel wrote:
you should re-think about the Hegel, IMHO.
Last week I went to a shop for a shootout: Hegel 360 vs. Linn Akurate.

+1

A close friend has the 360 and brings it over to test new speakers when I bring them in. It never fails to impress me at the price point with a variety of very different sounding speakers.


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Hegel Rost https://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/best-amplifier-dac-under-2000-pounds
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paulnijs1 wrote:
Thanks all , I like more softer music . Pinkfloyd/ Roger Waters being my hard music not played at big volumes.
I was looking at Hegel , I think the Hegel 200 might be over the top then .lol
I have the option of purchasing the Bryston B135 SST2 amp I could go for that .

According to reviewer Philip Beaudette, the Hegel H360 is a touch more transparent than Bryston B135 SST2, while Bryston B135 SST2 sounds a tad more powerful, generating bass that hit with a bit more impact than Hegel H360. https://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/934-hegel-music-systems-h360-dac-integrated-amplifier
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y reference integrated amplifier is a Bryston B135 SST2, and at $4695, it’s in direct competition with the Hegel H360. It doesn’t come standard with an onboard DAC or remote control, but these can be added for $1395 and $375, respectively, bringing the total package price to $6465 -- $765 more than the H360. The difference isn’t trivial, but the Bryston comes with a 20-year warranty -- more than six times longer than the H360’s three years.

Like the H360, the B135 SST2 is a dual-mono design, but is specified to deliver 135Wpc into 8 ohms or 180Wpc into 4 ohms. It has six line-level inputs (there is no balanced input), or five if the optional DAC is included. There are four digital inputs for the DAC itself, but, unlike the H360, no USB input. Furthermore, the Bryston has no built-in networking capabilities.

Before comparing the Hegel and Bryston integrateds, I reconnected the Bryston BDA-2 DAC. Sonically the H360 and B135 weren’t quite identical twins, but both sounded ultraclean, and should appeal to listeners for whom transparency is at or near the top of the list of priorities. Given how close they are in sound quality and price, anyone considering buying one should try to hear both.

I spent a fair amount of time listening to “Hustleblood” through both amps. Both delivered impeccably clean renditions of this well-produced R&B/hip-hop track, but I found the H360 a touch more transparent than the B135. Their soundstage widths were about the same, but the Hegel gave a slightly clearer picture of the space within that stage, which also seemed a bit deeper. The bass in “Hustleblood” digs pretty deep -- it even sounds fat through some speakers -- but the Hegel delivered it with excellent clarity that easily resolved such details as the decays of the lowest notes. But as good as the H360 was, the B135 sounded a tad more powerful, generating bass that hit with a bit more impact.

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In 'LIFT85's opinion, the Lyngdorf TDAI-2170 trounce Hegel H300, Bladelius and Primare I32 https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=46966&start=15

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'James_W' says >>Awesome integrated from Lyngdorf of Denmark. Read the reviews, this is one of the best integrated amps out there, better than my Supernait 2, old Chord 2600, Bryston 135 SST2, Unico 100 and many other seperates I've been through<<

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Given the flexibility with XA Pass Labs stuff to easily transition from Class A to AB, even their 30.5/.8 would do incredibly well.

60W of class A at 4 ohms at minimum. Yum!


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KJT1 wrote:
Ran mine with :
AMR777 : 60 watts a side
Gryphon : 100 watts a side, 200 into 4 ohm
ModWright KWI 200 : 200 a side, 400 into 4 ohm
Bryston 4Bsst2 : 300 a side, 500 into 4 ohm

All sounded really good but the Gryphon was the best so while quantity is good, quality wins out. The ModWright was second with the AMR a very close third that might have scored higher if it had a little more power to truly control the Mini T's. I bought all these amps used at a price that fits within your budget.

Which Gryphon amp did you have?


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Hopefully Crown XLS 5000 will do it for you and your neighbors.
1800 WPC RMS /4 ohm.
62 lbs.
As they say, look inside.
Feel real dynamics.

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Aragon 8008 Mk3 $2,750:http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649330715-aragon-8008-mk3/

- 400W @ 4Ω
- no ICs in the signal path
- dual mono: 2 x 0.5kVA toroidal transformers
- RCA and XLR inputs

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