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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:43 am 
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Be aware of a possible lockup of Android devices especially from Onkyo and Pioneer.
Units originally seem to work after you receive them from the seller, however, on the second power up it will ask for a password which you don't have and the item is locked permanently. Onkyo and Pioneer will refuse to help you to unlock it because it was NOT sold to you through an authorized Dealer and you are stuck with a useless piece of electronic junk having wasted your money.


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Android tv boxes are currently illegal in Canada, so that may also be an issue with getting support from companies like Pioneer and Onkyo.
If you really want a solution like that, just install Kodi and some plug-ins onto a TV-connected computer and you're good to go.
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Android media boxes are not illegal in Canada. What is currently illegal is for businesses to advertise, support, or configure Android media devices so customers so they can stream copyrighted content.

Is the OP even talking about Android media boxes, or something else? I don't think Pioneer or Onkyo make Android media players.


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Pioneer and Onkyo only make DAP’s. There is always a risk when buying from a gray market – manufacture refusing support is one of them.

The fraud warning should not of Android devices but the vendor who sold them.


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Ah, thanks sthomas1049...the OP is talking about portable players, not media boxes.


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I couldn’t find an Android Media Player type box on either Pioneer or Onkyo’s website so made an assumption. If in fact the OP is talking about a Media Box it is quite possible it is also a fraud. Android as an OS is open source and free. Anyone and their grandmother with a bit of experience can create a Android Box. Licencing is only required for Gmail, Maps and Google Play.


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You're right, though there was an injunction brought by the 'big 3' cable giants, and enforced by the CRTC, against retailers from selling the android boxes. Obviously they can still be bought on ebay, amazon, kijiji, etc...
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Incorrect, the injunction precludes retailers from selling Android boxes pre-configured to stream licensed content, or from explaining to customers how to enable said streaming. There has never been any restriction on selling Android media boxes per se. I bought my box from a major retailer that used to actively show people how to setup Kodi etc, now they sell the boxes and and just advise customers to read online about setup as they cannot provide guidance or assistance. The guys who were busy selling the boxes already setup to stream (there were lots of them on Kijiji) are totally outside the law now.


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Another reason why using Linux is both Cool and Smart !

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Android is Linux! :roll:


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The real travesty here is buying Onkyo. Since the debacle of their issues with HDMI several years ago, they still haven't learned a damn thing.
Customer service (regardless of the issue) is next to non existent.

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sthomas1049 wrote:
Android is Linux! :roll:


Duh!!!

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mahatma1 wrote:
The real travesty here is buying Onkyo. Since the debacle of their issues with HDMI several years ago, they still haven't learned a damn thing.
Customer service (regardless of the issue) is next to non existent.


Not all Onkyo has the same problems. For instance, I have the Onkyo TX- NR717 that I'm using as a processor in my a 7.1 HT setup, which gives me nothing but pleasures. http://www.audioholics.com/av-receiver-reviews/onkyo-tx-nr818-nr717-pre
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sthomas1049 wrote:
Android is Linux! :roll:


I didn't know this about android. My phone runs android - does this mean I have access to the source code?

The only thing running linux at my place are my two servers.

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Audio_Guy wrote:
sthomas1049 wrote:
Android is Linux! :roll:


I didn't know this about android. My phone runs android - does this mean I have access to the source code?

The only thing running linux at my place are my two servers.


Android is a mobile OS developed by Google which was based on the Linux kernel and designed primarily for touchscreen mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets.


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tube54 wrote:
sthomas1049 wrote:
Android is Linux! :roll:


Duh!!!

-- 19 Oct 2017 19:53 --

mahatma1 wrote:
The real travesty here is buying Onkyo. Since the debacle of their issues with HDMI several years ago, they still haven't learned a damn thing.
Customer service (regardless of the issue) is next to non existent.


Not all Onkyo has the same problems. For instance, I have the Onkyo TX- NR717 that I'm using as a processor in my a 7.1 HT setup, which gives me nothing but pleasures. http://www.audioholics.com/av-receiver-reviews/onkyo-tx-nr818-nr717-pre


My comment was toward Audio_Guy who can’t resist the urge to insert his biased “Linux is cool and smart” comment into practicably every thread he takes part in. Obviously he doesn’t know much about Linux if he can’t recognize it as being the base for the worlds most popular mobile platform.

And you can’t fault mahatma1 – he has had one b!tch of a time with Onkyo. Read some of his post. I feel sorry for the poor guy.

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sthomas1049 wrote:
Android is Linux! :roll:


I didn't know this about android. My phone runs android - does this mean I have access to the source code?

The only thing running linux at my place are my two servers.


Google it. You will find instructions on how to obtain their source code.


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