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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:29 pm 
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Good evening all,
After 24 years, I am considering the acquisition of a new VPI Scout Prime (or is it Prime Scout?). My current turntable is an upgraded VPI HW-19 that started life as the HW-19 Junior. I have installed the MK-IV lead impregnated platter. Heavy enough that I contacted VPI directly to assure myself that my motor would not burn out because of the extra weight. The original acrylic platter was a lightweight in comparison. VPI Industries in NJ assured me there would be no problem because apparently the HW-19 motor was overbuilt for just such an upgrade.

i am in a quandary about which way to go with this HW-19. After 24 years, not one single individual has been able to identify my unknown tonearm! The closest guess was a Jelco. NOT the case as confirmed by Jelco Japan. I've been researching Jelco tonearms and they appear to be well respected by the vinyl people. A new Jelco 9" straight arm is in the $600 range. Comparing that to over $3220 for the new Scout: What to do?

I realize of course that a 24 year old TT is no match for a brand new release of an extremely well-liked flagship of VPI's for a long time indeed. What is muddying the water is the arrival of a "new-to-me" pair of Tannoy Gold 12" Monitors recently. My intention is to use these Tannoys strictly for vinyl playback.

Comments, recent or past experience with a Scout, ideas and recommendations are welcome.

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What's wrong with what you have now?
(Well for one, you can't data match mass/compliance), but what's the problem? Is the arm geometrically correct in its hole?

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Post a photo of the arm on a separate thread to see if anyone can help identify it.

Unless it as a one off custom made piece it shouldn't be tough to ID.

That way when you buy the exciting new TT you will be able to sell your old one with a proper description!

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I’ve never heard the Scout but I’m wondering you could upgrade your tonearm for less than the Scout price and maybe be even further ahead? It’s not my area of expertise by any stretch...
It is always fun to contemplate a change though and it seems your last few changes have worked out great.
Best of luck!


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Before you go shopping for a tonearm you have to ensure the mounting hole (arm board) is of correct pivot to spindle length. Not 100% certain on this but I believe the VPI HW-19 JR was drilled for a Rega spec arm – pivot to spindle of 222mm. If you are looking at the Jelco SA-250 ST, it’s Pivot to Spindle is 210mm. Not gonna work!

Of course if you have a removable arm board you could have a new one fabricated.


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Madcap,

On the VPI site there is a forum section where you can ask your question and get 1st hand answers from Harry ( original owner of vpi) Harry'son Mat who is the current owner as well as members of the forum. I am not familiar with your tt but run a vpi prime.

Go to their site, there is a wealth of imformation there.


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One photograph to start identification:

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Try a pic from the top looking straight down with the arm in the resting position.

Based on the skinny arm tube I am going to guess low mass/compliance. Resembles Grace 707.

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Try a pic from the top looking straight down with the arm in the resting position.


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Just fyi there's a vpi facebook page too, and the Weisberg's (Matt) regularly post and respond on it.
Another thing you could do is measure your tonearm and measure the hole to spindle as per sthomas49's post above....

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Just fyi there's a vpi facebook page too, and the Weisberg's (Matt) regularly post and respond on it.
Another thing you could do is measure your tonearm and measure the hole to spindle as per sthomas49's post above....

-- 11 Oct 2017 21:39 --

Just fyi there's a vpi facebook page too, and the Weisberg's (Matt) regularly post and respond on it.
Another thing you could do is measure your tonearm and measure the hole to spindle as per sthomas49's post above....

-- 11 Oct 2017 21:40 --

Just fyi there's a vpi facebook page too, and the Weisberg's (Matt mostly) regularly post and respond on it.
Another thing you could do is measure your tonearm and measure the hole to spindle as per sthomas49's post above....

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Che Cavolo,
Facebook and Zuckerberg (sp?) can take a Flying F**k at the MOON!

My stance re: FB, Twitter, Instagram, blah blah blah :lol:

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^Okay then, buy your scout whatever, pm me your address and put it out at the curb and I'll deal with it.
Seems to me you were trying to resolve this issue on CAM years ago.
Tell you what, I'll even give you $100 to pick it up....
Thanks sthomas1049, somebody's listening..... :wink:

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Che Cavolo wrote:
Seems to me you were trying to resolve this issue on CAM years ago.
Tell you what, I'll even give you $100 to pick it up

Decent memory CC. I posted a shot of the tonearm on 23 October 2014.

That offer sounds pretty good. This is a heavy table at about 50 pounds.
How high do you propose to "pick it up?" How's your diet bud?

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Madcap wrote:
Che Cavolo wrote:
Seems to me you were trying to resolve this issue on CAM years ago.
Tell you what, I'll even give you $100 to pick it up

Decent memory CC. I posted a shot of the tonearm on 23 October 2014.

That offer sounds pretty good. This is a heavy table at about 50 pounds.
How high do you propose to "pick it up?" How's your diet bud?


I think you might have posted a shot several years earlier too. You have windows, so I'm pretty sure I can just pick it up and carry it out, even if the elevator's not working. If you were in the sub-basement, then I might need to take a couple breaks. Do we have a deal then? :D

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