Canuck Audio Mart

I have been enjoying the benefits of clearer , more full bodied sound ,after I use a demagnetizer on my cd's, dvd's and lp's, for two plus years.

Lots of reviews to back up merits of demag, check Pos feedback, 6 moons, M Fremer,and lots of my friends demag after hearing the results on my system.

Just wondering if I am all alone?

I only get all the usual nay sayers, who say it can't be possible,yet they can't offer an explanation why it can't work.

Even withoutout any explanation about why it works(they are out there, read the reviews)I heard the results and there is no going back to straight out of the box playing.

I don't use the expensive after market machines, mine was a professional bulk tape eraser(Hammond) from a defunct recording studio.
They are out there, a friend got his smaller Hammond from the university.

Hi Chuck,

I have been using a Bendini demag for a couple of years getting the same benefits you described. I demag every cd and blu ray before playing them.A cam member loaned me his Acoustic Revive RR77 and RD 3 demag for a few weeks. The RD3 made even a larger difference than the Bendini ultra clarifier. I have already purchased the RR77 with the after market King Rex power supply and next up will be the Acoustic Revive RD3. If anyone is interested, my Bendini is for sale on cam , they do make a clearly make a difference.

I've been using the Walker Audio Talisman for about 1 year now with good results. I don't think the difference is mindboggling but it does help to get that extra bit out of the cd's I've used it on to help the music sound more real. I found this effect also extends to powercords and speakercables.

Just for the record I have used demagnitizing in conjunction with an optical enhancer (walker audio ultra vivid) and the results are a further improvement ... well worth a try IMHO.

Also, I have found that the demagnitizing effect does not work for my Marantz DV-8300 ... actually the sound gets slightly more muddy afterwards. But on the AA Capitole it works quite well.

When I first read about demagging, I tried an old radio shack hand held tape head demag and did the old swirl routine, starting close then moving away from the cd/lp.

The results were positive. not earth shaking but at least it proved to me that there was more than just hype.

Then I lucked upon the Hammond, and that was quite the improvement over the hand held, much lighter weight unit.

So the effects are dependant on the machine, but they are audible and not illusionary with any unit.

I have not heard the Furutech or any of the outrageously priced units,but wouldn't doubt that they do the job,but at a cost I wouldn't consider.
One of my other friends didn't find any used demag units so he went the store bought route and got the acoustic revive unit and I can say there is a before and after improvement.
I think the cost of these units is more reasonable, and you don't need to re-juice as you do with cleaners, so it's a pay once venture.

I haven't tried doing cables etc, just the software.

Nice to see there are a few others who have found something that is miles beyond the green magic marker stuff.

The only other thing I have found to improve lp's is the VPI HW16.5.
So it's a nice cleaning ,then a demag and then almost clik and pop free listening from lps that I thought had decent enough sound.
Now I know they didn't and I was just fooling myself.

I had, and took, the opportunity to borrow a friends Talisman recently. I really wanted it to work, but try as I might I couldn't fool my ears into hearing an improvement, or even just a difference, and I'm a firm believer in tweaks and cables and stuff of that nature. The first part of this post should be taken as tongue in cheek, so I'm not saying that it doesn't work, I'm just saying I wasn't able to hear any difference. I own Black Diamond Racing Cones and Those Things and don't find that they make much of a difference either. My friend loves the Talismen though.

Now. my Symposium Rollerblocks that's a completely different story. Best bang for the buck I have ever experienced in my audio journeys.
Especially when placed under digital players and transports.

Uh oh, I can see a storm brewing. How do these work again? And what's Demanetizing (j/k)?

Good sound you are invited anytime for an audition at my home.
Just bring some music, cd or vinyl.

I have no experience with the Talisman, but the photos of it seem to put it into the hand held camp like my old(and cheap) radio shack demag.
There was quite a bit of difference between the hand held and the Hammond ,so perhaps you should have taken the Acoustic Revive unit home , does Chad still stock those?

In any event just let me know when you would like to drop by.


If anyone is truly interested in more information on demagnetization,it's easy enough to find reviews of either the Acoustic Revive gear or the Furutech demag units(very expensive).

Two places to start your education are the Positive Feedback online(this month I think they do several reviews of demag units) and 6 Moons.

Also you can look at the archives from stereophile.
Mike Fremer,at first a sceptic,is now a demag devotee especially on his preferred musical source, vinyl.

He has been rebuked many times by the "we know it just can't be"types, and he does a much better job than I ever could to reply to them.

If you don't know about demagnetization, it's time to do some investigating before you write it off.

Good sound liked the Murata super tweeters at Alt Audio, I liked the Elac, but the murata didn't work wonders on my Tannoys, perhaps the Elacs would have.
Good Sound didn't like the Red Dragon amps at Alt Audio, I have a pair but not from Alt Audio and they sound just fine on my Tannoys or Merlins.
Good Sound did not like the Talisman from Alt Audio, but my friends Acoustic revive from Alt Audio works just fine when demaged lps or cds are played on his Acoustat(servo tube powered) speakers and Atmasphere MP3 pre amp.

Sometimes you have to try things in different systems to get a true fix on what their merits are. The wrong piece on the wrong system can lead to generalizations that the component being evaluated is inferior.
Perhaps it is just passing on , truthfully what is in front of it or connected to it.

I have heard the murata super tweeter on a pair of Grand Veenas, and there is a sense of air around that speaker that is reminicient of when you add the Elac super tweeter to some speakers not necessarily from Elac either.

So Ron, just pm me when you would like to drop by.
I would value your judgement on the demagnetization process and on my sound in general with the Red Dragon amps.

Thanks Chuck, I will definitely take you up on the offer, pm forthcoming shortly.

Publicly I would just like to clarify. I absolutely in no way discount the authenticity of the effects demagnetization can have in improving the sound of playback media. I firmly believe that the improvements you hear are real. I certainly hope that by recounting my personal experiences with a few products in reaction with a few other specific products that I have not given the impression that I am , how do you put it, a wall plugger'? Nothing could be further from the truth, I own and use expensive aftermarket power cords and mains filtering and vibration control devices and signal cables and so on. Any of the derogatory comments I made about a specific product was only in relation to how that product worked with one specific product or system at the time of auditioning. As far as the performance of any product in my own system such as the Talismen or the Racing Cones I blame the lack of ultimate resolution in my own current system more than anything else. No, I didn't like the way the Elac super tweeters sounded when hooked up to the Audio Physic speakers at Alternative, but this does not mean that I would dismiss the Elac super tweeters out of hand when used with a different pair of speakers. It is quite likely that these tweeters would sound fantastic in some other configuration. As for the Red Dragons I mentioned in that post that my audition of them was extremely casual to the point where no valid conclusion could be made. The negative reaction to those amps, I related, came mostly from the employees at Alternative Audio. Chuck I trust your judgement and ability to discern and evaluate changes in your system and audio in general. I hope this clarifies any possible confusion as to my stance.

I also believe in tweaks and hearing differences in cables so I am not discounting anybodies experience with demagnetization. I am a little skeptical though that such a tiny magnetic field caused by the magnetized ink in the label could cause noise inside the player. But hearing is believing so until I actually try it myself, I can't really say personally whether it works or not.

I hope no one takes offense to my wait and see attitude, I am only reserving judgment until I can hear it for myself (hearing is believing). It is helpful to hear others opinions, it really gets me thinking (about buying more audio toys!).

Albert that is "the only way" to do it.

You try it, and if it works for you then you look for one for yourself from the pro market or you buy an Audiophile version.

I can't endorse the grossly expensive Furtech unit.
I have not heard it.
Maybe it does an even better job than my Hammond Bulk tape eraser.
I would like to be able to partake in just such a demo of the two.

What I can say is that when I have heard before and after demagged cd's using the Revive,the demagged cd always sounds better and has much the same characteristics of "better" that my demagger has.

So how much better does a couple of thousand dollars get you over the Revive?
That shootout so far hasn't happened.
Maybe I should put the bug in someone's ear at Pos Feedback.

It should be noted that for whatever reason, sometimes a cd doesn't seem to show as much of an improvement as another.
Could be quality differences between cd's , amount of previous use?

But one thing I do know is that even brand new out of the jewel case cd's played once for a listen then demagged and listened to for the second time,have sounded better after a demagging.
So I'm not sold on the amount of playing time/magnetic build up relationship.

Also I demag every time I play a cd, even if I demagged it the nite before.
I have found that not doing so, the sound is not as good as when re- demagnetized.
So in my experience demagging and forgetting about doing it again is not the way to go.
The effect doesn't last, or is as profoundly better if you don't demag for awhile.

Nobody says you have to do this to enjoy your music.
Nobody is forcing you to buy one at whatever price you can find one for.
Nobody is endorsing one unit over the other,at least not me.

All I can ask for ,is for those who are curious to try the demagging process.

Hi Albert,

If you would like new toys, when you combine the Audiodesk cd disc lathe with the acoustic Revive RR77 and RD3 demagnitizer,your ears will be in for a shock. Combine these 3 items and it really makes cd more anolog sounding. You would be surprised. There is a review of the RR77 at http://www.6moons.com

Thanks for the link, that sounds very interesting! It looks like I'm going to have to start saving up for more stuff! I am kind of tapped right now as I just bought an ARC PH3 phono amp and an EAD TheaterVision p DVD player. What the heck, it's my birthday on Sunday.

"Demanetizing".........
Isn't that called divorce!

Just curious if anybody here has used a disc like the Cardas/Ayre, Densen or XLO disc with a demagnetizing frequency sweep on it, and if so have you found it made any difference? I've tried a few, but I don't hear it making a substantial difference if any at all. FWIW, here is a link to the discs:

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73160
http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73372
http://www.amazon.com/XLO-Reference-Test-Burn-Recordings/dp/B0000015AL

I have the Densen, and I can't hear a difference using it.

Please do not confuse these things for a true demagnetizing unit that you use for your lps and cd and dvd.
The Densen does little or nothing, I don't use it anymore.
You would be better to find an old tape head hand held demagnetizer and probably cost you less money.

Then again I haven't demagnetized the Densen demag disc, so there is something to try before I completely right off the Densen.

Maybe others have had some success with these demag disc that basically are frequency sweeps as far as I can tell.

Nowhere near the improvement in sound that a demagged cd can provide.

Remember: cd demagnegnetizer not demagnetizing cd.