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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:15 am 
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It would make sense the elevator would be ideally matched with another GS phono pre.
Has anyone tried it as a stand alone SUT or with different manufacturers MM phono pre's?
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It's not a SUT.


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sasquatch wrote:
It's not a SUT.


Gary

Correct Gary, it is not an SUT, it is basically what is normally referred to as a "head amp" in the industry jargon.


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The Elevator has 22dB gain so it's pretty perfect for any MM phono preamp. Add it to a 40dB phono preamp and you get 62 etc. etc. The advantages over the a SUT are quite obvious. No hum because there's no transformer, perfectly linear frequency response is possible (transformers always have some bass issues) and completely adjustable impedance to match your cartridge. On top of that it's dead silent and has no sound character whatsoever. If you have a good MM phono preamp already you'd probably be hard pressed to find an integrated MC that sounds better for the money.

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OBI56 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
It's not a SUT.


Gary

Correct Gary, it is not an SUT, it is basically what is normally referred to as a "head amp" in the industry jargon.

Didn't want anybody thinking there was a transformer inside.Most likely a couple a $20 AD797's inside.

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Notwithstanding the biased opinions of the Graham Slee dealer in this thread, I prefer transformers ... and I am a Graham Slee fanboy. I use a Bryston TF-1 with a Gram Amp 2SE in my basement system. Yes, poorly-designed transformers can hum ... and placement can sometimes be a bit tricky, but active prepreamplifiers can also add noise.

I am sure that the Elevator is an excellent prepreamp, and on the surface it has a lot of flexibility, but that flexibility has its own issues. The number of contact and connection points cannot have a positive effect on low-voltage MC signals, and unless you are constantly swapping cartridges, you really don't need it all anyway.

I would prefer an out-of-the-box SUT, prepreamplifer or phono stage that matches the cartridge I am using. It might require a bit of strategic research, but simpler is best.

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sasquatch wrote:
It's not a SUT.


Gary

Correct Gary, it is not an SUT, it is basically what is normally referred to as a "head amp" in the industry jargon.


Yes, and it gets worse when the kids at the 'cool table' refer to headphone amplifiers as "head amps" for their "cans". :roll:

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sasquatch wrote:
It's not a SUT.


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Thanks for the clarification Gary and Obi


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