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Buying in this price range. They will all sound the same. Mainly due to the fact that the components used are the same in order to stay within that range of sale or buying. No matter what you choose 9 times out of 10 it will sound the same using a different brand . just go out there and pick something that visually you like and that will be the one. It will be difficult to tell if one is better than the other in the same price range since they will most likely NOT be side by side. There may be a few differences in
selection of knobs and features. In the end it evens out.


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Buying in this price range. They will all sound the same. Mainly due to the fact that the components used are the same in order to stay within that range of sale or buying. No matter what you choose 9 times out of 10 it will sound the same using a different brand.

They will not sound exactly the same. And since the OP like music types like House, Rap, Hiphop, Rock, Alternative, and 'anything but country', then an amp like NAD C326BEE, or the more powerful NAD C356BEE would be a perfect choice that will deliver the dynamic punch that suits House, Rap and Hip Hop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTUAESacQM The Sugar Hill Gang - Rapper's Delight , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHh5rDcQKhQ Beat Dis - Bomb the bass , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI Technotronic - Pump up the jam , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLwZx1hyGL8 Bomfunk MC - Uprocking beats , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwdlqquJDK4 Wamdue Project - King of my castle , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrtgBsGRpAM Infernal - Keen on Disco , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re_pcqKhFTs Evelyn Thomas - High Energy (extended version) , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdEyZ3-OjU8 The Flirts - Helpless (Long 12'' Version) , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4gvnmpa9W4 Kim Wilde - View from a bridge , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaikP9b1gl0 Aneka - Japanese boy (Extended big megamix) , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_zcWnzUrk0 Sugar - Like a roller coaster (12") , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxxzJnXSGGA) Pseudo Echo - Listening (1987 version soundtrack to "North Shore" 1987 surfer movie) , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRU9oflOIXc The Lords of the New Church - M-Style , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TxhhMZjI8o Stray Cats - Be Bop A Lula)

, or Roksan Kandy as suggested by 'sublimesound' and 'James_W', Roksan Kandy has the reputation as a very good compromise between the laid-backness of Arcam, Creek and Rega and the disco punchiness character of NAD, like 'SaabKen' said.

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/how-to-spend-535-on-an-amp-nad-separates-or-c326bee.363990/
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'Mr. Lin' says: >> I think the most important thing I can tell you with regards to power is that this NAD C326BEE amp sounds a lot more powerful than it's rated. Next to my Outlaw 2150 receiver, which is rated 100wpc, the NAD C326BEE seems to drive difficult speakers with more ease than the Outlaw receiver. I don't know why that would be, but it's a pretty obvious difference.<<

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/nad-c356bee.427039/
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'Catcher10' says: >>NAD C356BEE. This amp blew me away. Beefy, big sound, excellent mid-low end, incredibly quiet. Great features, tons of input options.....and the little blue lights are cool. The vinyl section was real nice with the supplied MDC phono preamp, the NAD C356BEE had a nicer soundstage than the Brio-R on vinyl.

Well my new amp arrived a few days early, audio store called me this morning......I connected it today and have been playing with it for several hours now. After making all the connections I turned it on and played Rush The Camera Eye on CD. I immediately noticed how much more alive my Epos Epic 2s had become, must be NAD's PowerDrive technology....I like it.<<


'Art K.' says: >>Actually I recommend this as your next purchase... https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Male-Male-Preamp-Jumpers/dp/B0006VMBGO , Then let the jumpers run in for a month. After that listen to your speakers for awhile. As already well stated run the setup with the tone controls bypassed. You may find that you have all the low end you need.<<

'Catcher10' says: >>Thanks MWalt.....I did choose it over the Rega for sound massaging options and also I felt the NAD sounded better when the audio seller played some vinyl for me. The lower end is much better now with the NAD, it certainly provides the Epos with that lower end the Onkyo could not. Hence I have been using the Tone Defeat option on the NAD, and right now I agree with you, the NAD C356BEE has a much more natural sound.<<

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Those jumper pics from ELOS, above, make a very good point. The sound of all my entry-level units equipped with pre-out/amp-in sockets on the back panel ( NAD C320BEE, NAD C352, HK 330B, HK 630, HK 930 ) has been significantly improved by replacing the stock jumpers with something good.


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The Yamaha has a "subwoofer out" connection as well. Should be worth a mention


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It's possible to connect 2 subwoofers to NAD C326BEE's "Sub 1" and Sub 2"

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NAD C356BEE has "pre out 1" option for connecting to the Line-in sockets on the subwoofer

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Roksan Kandy K1 has pre out option for connecting to the Line-in sockets on the subwoofer

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ELOS wrote:
It's possible to connect 2 subwoofers to NAD C326BEE's "Sub 1" and Sub 2"

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NAD C356BEE has "pre out 1" option for connecting to the Line-in sockets on the subwoofer

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Sorry ELOS, but none of those qualifies as a true Subwoofer output like the bass filtered/managed one on the Yamaha which rolls off the bass response above 90Hz. They are just regular preamp0 level outputs running full range so you absolutely need to use the crossover built into many, but not all, subwoofers.


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Pastuch wrote:
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The price of the Yamaha A-S801 has been dropped to $550 by the seller. A great deal for this integrated amp!

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649356525-yamaha-as801-black-with-builtin-dac-and-phono/


I agree that the 801 is a great deal and a terrific amp, what concerns me is that I've found every Yamaha I've ever heard flat. Not really musical and even a little bright. To be fair, they were much older AVR models whereas this is a proper integrated. I also love the computer connectivity, DAC, and uber headphone amp. It's compelling, I'm just worried I'd like a NAD better. Maybe I should just buy one of each.

Reading from https://www.reddit.com/r/BudgetAudiophile/comments/4jy58q/yamaha_yamaha_as501_or_nad_c326bee_for_elac_f5/ the Yamaha amps seems more bright sounding compared to NAD, while NAD seems to sound more musical. I find the NAD C326BEE very nice sounding to my ears. Maybe it's a good idea to hold on to NAD as you are more used to it's sound signature, and 'surferpat' from https://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/nad-c326-better-c356 prefer NAD C326bee over NAD C356BEE. And in case you don't have the opportunity to audition the Yamaha and Roksan models mentioned in this thread, maybe it would be a safer bet to go for a NAD C326BEE for a good deal.

* http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649349901-nad-c372-integrated-amp/

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/nad-integrated-comparison
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'hieule5' says: >>I have used my NAD C326BEE to drive my GF's Dynaudio DM 2-10 and JBL S-38 with ease. IMO, the NAD 326BEE is very refined, noticeably more refined than its predecessor 320BEE. I like the newer 326BEE more after I replaced the cheap factory metal bars with the Audioquest Copperhead Preamp jumper cables. NAD 372 is better than 326BEE in terms of bass definition at lowever volume due to more wattage. NAD 372 is just a bit better than 326BEE in terms of transparency but you have to pay a few hundreds $$$ more for that improvement.<<


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There is a Roksan Kandy mkIII for sale on http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649361826-roksan-kandy-mkiii/ , but the seller don't ship, which means you need to travel about 358 miles to Woodstock to audition that amp there.

There is a Roksan Kandy K1 for sale on http://www.kijiji.ca/v-systeme-de-son/ouest-de-lile-qc/amplificateur-integre-roksan-kandy-ka-1-avec-telecommande/1272675474?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true , in Montreal, about 102 miles away, maybe worth check it out


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There is a Roksan Kandy mkIII for sale on http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649361826-roksan-kandy-mkiii/ , but the seller don't ship, which means you need to travel about 358 miles to Woodstock to audition that amp there.

There is a Roksan Kandy K1 for sale on http://www.kijiji.ca/v-systeme-de-son/ouest-de-lile-qc/amplificateur-integre-roksan-kandy-ka-1-avec-telecommande/1272675474?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true , in Montreal, about 102 miles away, maybe worth check it out



OMG. Jump all over that Roksan Kandy MK111. Way more power/amperage than NAD. Way, way smoother and more listenable than Yamaha. I bought one for $600 on a lark to use in my third system. It sounded so good that I even tried it in my main system for a while. To my surprise it held its own in the bass department when compared to my reference amp worth 10 times the price.
I will never sell this thing. The phono stage is surprisingly good as well.
Way more power than anything else in its price range. Bass punch is incredible. Once it warms up for a few hours, the treble is smooth and almost tube like. I can't think of an all around better performer at this price point.
Most boutique amps with a similar build quality. (Rega, etc), will not have the same power and bass performance. You may be able to find something that has a slightly more detailed presentation but such low powered boutique amps will likely fall short in terms of bass and dynamics. And while possibly better sounding for classical, or acoustic music, they will fall short if you want to rock out with other types of amplified music. The Roksan is the best all around performer, in my opinion. For $500-700 its an absolute steal.


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'psonic' says: >>A couple of points here. The NAD integrated sounds good for the money, but it's weakness or performance bottleneck is the preamp section, the power amp section inside the NAD integrated amp is very good indeed. I have added a Rotel preamp to my NAD integrated and the difference in the sound is astounding. The Rotel preamp powersupply & caps are the size you'd see in a receiver or small amp! Trust me, I almost didn't believe it till I tried, but these guys who preach separates and good preamps know what they are talking about. A very high level of transparency is there now. My soundstage got larger, and most of all imaging got sooo much more defined and solid (placing all the instruments and vocals in space). I suggest for your upgrade forget about the C372 & C270, and go with separates. I say get a preamp now...your C370 is the C270 essentially, so stick with that for now. You can hook the preamp to the main in jacks on the back...one of the great features of NAD integrateds. You can then enjoy that till you are ready to upgrade again, at which point you may look at amps like Bryston or PS Audio, etc. to replace the NAD, because it will take a good one to really beat the NAD C370.<<


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Currently own: NAD amps (Lower end and adore them, the 326 is tempting)

Why not skip integrats and go for seperate preamp and power amp combo? In that way you will get a noticeable better sound than any of the previously mentioned integrated amps in this thread.

There is a NAD 1020 Series 20 preamp for sale on http://www.kijiji.ca/v-stereo-systems-home-theatre/city-of-toronto/nad-1020-series-20-preamp-audition-welcome/1274210805

There is a AMC 2100 power amp for sale on ebay, the outer look is almost similar to NAD, but they say it doesn't have NAD's buttery sound, but more like a Krell, very detailed sound with super fast transients, excellent midrange, good bass and highs.

* http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649328867-very-nice-nad-c362-preamp/

* http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122540359542?clk_rvr_id=1230471953443&rmvSB=true

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/amplifiers/amc/2100/prd_115505_1583crx.aspx
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'Ed P' says: >>My AMC 2100 power amp is currently hooked up to a pair of Magnepan MGIIIa speakers and it plays loud with very good bass control. Very vivid in the high frequencies too. I really like this amp. People say it was designed by someone from NAD as it looks like a NAD but it doesn't have the same buttery sound. It's more like a Krell if you can believe that. Very detailed with super fast transients. I'll be keeping this little gem for a long time.<<

'psonic' says: >>Excellent midrange, imaging and vocals with good bass and highs. In fact, after careful listening I decided I much prefer the AMC 2100 to the highly regarded Parasound HCA1000A. So for now the AMC 2100 stays in the main system.<<

https://www.audioasylum.com/messages/general/136939/nad-c350-vs-amc-1100-preamp-amp-2100-amp
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Posted by DDR on August 7, 2001: >>Hi, I'm getting my first stereo set up and need your help. I ordered B&W DM303 and I am looking for an integrated amp or preamp/amp combo that is not too expensive. I was almost ready to order NAD C350 from good reviews, but just found out that I could get separate pre amp and amp with the same budget if I go with AMC. For around $350, I can get NAD C350(60Wx2) or AMC 1100 pre amp and AMC 2100 amp(100Wx2). Which one should I choose??? Would I get better sound if I go with AMC preamp/amp combo? If sound improvement is minimal, I would rather stay with NAD since it's simple to have one component and it has remote control. Thank you so much for your help.<<

Reply by 'B4S': >>I have the AMC 1100 and 2100. I am not using them now, as I have upgraded, but you really can't beat the AMC combo's performance for the dollar. The amp is very worth your money. To me, the amp sounds to be at least a $500 piece. The preamp isn't as nice as the amp, but it will get you started. Then just upgrade the 1100 down the road and you will have a very satisfying system. I use a Linn Powertek now, but every now and then I hook up my AMC 2100 power amp and it still amazes me how good it sounds for how little I spent, and it looks like you will be spending less than I did. In short, I would go the separates route. I am glad I did. I was in the same boat 2 years ago. I think you will be happy with the AMC equipment. Not to say that NAD wouldn't be good too. NAD makes great equipment too. I guess the NAD does have one edge. It has a remote, the AMC pieces do not.<<


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http://www.kijiji.ca/v-systeme-de-son/laval-rive-nord/nad-c370-et-tuner-c420/1263288528

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649349901-nad-c372-integrated-amp/

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-stereo-systems-home-theatre/ottawa/rotel-ra-971-stereo-integrated-amplifier-great-amp-like-nad/1249938927

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/rotel/ra-971/prd_116119_2717crx.aspx
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'Joe' says: >>I listened to NAD c350, Denon, Marantz, etc..But Rotel RA-971 stood out as the best integrated amp to my ears. The Nad seemed to have a warmer bottom end, but sounded a bit grainy and tizzy. This Rotel RA-971 amp is very clear and fast and has great dynamic range, plays at high volume without any change in the sound. It is great with rythms. I think the power rating of 60 watts RMS is pretty underated, as this setup shake the windows in my place at "10 o'clock" position on the volume button.<<


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The question stated has no merit .
It like saying whats the best house to buy in Toronto for $100,000 .
or what the best car to buy for $100.
Whats the best sound to buy for $300 to $700. There are so many different factors to concider and that one component also affect the sound . From the cartridge to the turntable or DC player or Tape player or what ever to the pre amp or Dac or amp
or receiver or tube amp or intergrated amp or your cell phone..etc. then theres the speakers...from free ones to infinity in price range..then there s your ears..how good is your hearing to determine if anything that price range will give you better sound.
Its a catch 22 situation.


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'Anonymous' says: >>For amps we tested the Rotel 1520, (The RA-12 wasn’t available that day) Musical Fidelity M3i, Unison Unico Primo, a NAD with DAC (don’t recall model), and the Primare I22. The NAD was a bit loud, the Unico Primo a bit warm but second choice. We thought the 1520 and M3i were a bit messy in lower frequencies and rhythm sections and I can subscribe to the 1520’s ‘narrow’ sound of poster above. The choice for the Primare was a really a no brainer as not only it sounded best to us, it also has going for it: the (optional) onboard DAC, programmable inputs + default and max volume, Class D energy efficiency and its slick but sturdy minimalist looks. To us the I22 really sounds and appears like something out of a higher price class.

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1) ***Primare I22. Simply the best sounding amp in the test. A clear Gold medal winner!***
2) Unico Primo. Takes the second place and deserves the silver medal.
3) NAD C356BEE DAC. Plays loud and nice. Deserves the bronze medal in this group test.
4) Rotel RA-1520. Simply the test loser!<<


* http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649189223-primare-i22-integrated-amplifier/ and http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649354253-primare-i30-integrated-amplifieraudiopile-5-star-rated/, though this used Primare I22 and Primare I30 is probably currently above your budget. Primare I21 is sometimes seen for sale (http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649170692-primare-i21/) , currently no used Primare I21 on the radar, but maybe worth to keep an eye for the next.

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649353181-nad-d-3020-integrated-amp-dac-w-aptx-bluetooth/

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-stereo-systems-home-theatre/markham-york-region/nad-c316bee-integrated-amplifier/1272359172?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

NAD C316BEE vs C326BEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doY-gYzF9L0

NAD C326BEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_7ygv6f-k ---> http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649360343-nad-c326-bee-remote-amp/

https://www.stereophile.com/content/nad-d3020-vs-nad-c326bee
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'ivayvr' says: >>Can I expect to hear better sound if I switch from NAD C326BEE to NAD D3020?<<

'bierfeldt' says: >>The NAD D3020 is darn nice sounding but is going to be a small improvement in detail. IMO, the major step forward is the fabulous on board DAC and the fact that being a Class D amp, it seems to not face the same issues of distortion one gets when the DAC is inside of a Class A/B amp unit. I don't believe that the NAD D3020 itself is any better than the NAD 326BEE having listened to both.<<

'ivayvr' says: >>Bierfveldt, thank you for your opinion! By the way, if I had the money, I would probably go for Primare I22. My speakers with that Primare amp sounds spectacular!<<

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/nad-c-316bee-vs-nad-d-3020
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'paraneer' says: >>I had a NAD C316BEE in a secondary system once and it did a great job driving a pair 6 ohm, 86db speakers. The NAD C316BEE is a very musical amp and punches way above its weight.<<

'hfarrior3' says: >>Thanks again for the input everyone. Looks like I need to go with the NAD C316BEE.<<

https://www.avforums.co.za/index.php?topic=30631.0
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'Tonteldoos' says: >>Connected it to my PC via the Cinnamon cable, and compared the two setups, i.e. D3020 (DAC and amp) vs. my current C316BEE and the PC's onboard sound. The NAD D3020 was definitely more lively sounding, and I found myself sitting with a BIG smile. Unfortunately the SUBW output on the D3020 (which according to the manual functions as a sub or pre-out, even if only a mini-jack) only seemed to output low frequencies, so I couldn't compare the amplification directly by plugging the pre-out into the C316BEE. But I really enjoyed the immediacy and energy that came from the D3020. Probably won't matter to most, but I also found that games sounded amazing. I left the unit playing this morning so that it can burn in some more... It's not all perfect - you can hear that this NAD D3020 is an entry level amp. But that doesn't matter, this is not meant to replace my NAD C316BEE stereo rig. I do get the sense, though, that you'll be able to pair this NAD D3020 with better and better speakers and get even greater benefit than I have with the Wharfedale 10.1s. It also runs hotter than I thought it would (at least it's standing in a well-ventilated place), and the controls are a little bit fiddly. Not that you need to use them much, though. The volume display could also have been more detailed. But the remote control is a very classy thing. I could hear (I think, anyway) that the NAD C316BEE had better control of the speakers than NAD D3020. So I think you can ultimately build a better system with the dedicated amp and a standalone DAC. But you'd also spend a bit more.<<


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http://amchome.com/3100mkii-3150mkii

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112454520832?clk_rvr_id=1240711343143&rmvSB=true

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/amc/3025a/prd_115509_2717crx.aspx
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'dbm66' says: >>I compared this AMC 3025A amp with the NAD C320BEE, using B&W 602 speakers and an ordinary CD player. The AMC 3025A was significantly better, having a warmer and a better fullfilling sound.<<


* http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182632618950?clk_rvr_id=1240601699544&rmvSB=true

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/amc/3050a/prd_125464_2717crx.aspx
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'Biggsuthingus' says: >>I got the AMC 3050a to replace my clapped out 20 year old Sansui au999 integrated and boy was i surprised. This AMC 3050A is quite honestly the most amazing amplifier in its price range. The bass is strong but clear and smooth. The mids are transparent as any ive heard in its price bracket. The highs are crisp and clear, not sharp like the Yamaha.<<

Translated comments from https://www.hardwareonline.dk/traad.aspx?fid=33&tid=640598
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'Lack' says: >>Hello folks, I have visited HiFi-klubben shop searching for an amp.. The two amps I've been looking at are NAD C326BEE and Cambridge Azur 650A. There is a little difference in sound. The NAD sounds more soft and deep, while the Cambridge sounds more hard and edged. Anyway, does anyone here have any experience with these two models?<<

'Pallemand01' says: >>I wouldn't choose any of them. I would go for a AMC XIA amp that beats the NAD and Cambridge by a large margin. Otherwise, the highly underrated brand: Cayin, I would also give a listen. Try listening elsewhere than the commercial HFK (HiFi-klubben). There are other places where you get much more for the money.<<

'Stensgaard' says: >>I agree there are other places than HiFi-Klubben that is worth to look at before you decide to purchase. But I have nothing against HiFi-Klubben. And I'm also pretty sure that all the other stores are also interested in earning money as well (= commercial) and there's nothing wrong with that.<<

'TGV' says: >>I Have the NAD C326BEE hooked to Dali Lektor 2 speakers and they play super with this NAD amp. The NAD C326BEE deliver plenty of juice and has not had any problems.<<


'Izaaq' says: >>The HiFi-Klubben shops has become the new Elgiganten shops... Look elsewhere ;) <<

'Stensgaard' says: >>Then you have not been in the right shop.<<

'Lack' says: >>Thanks for the inputs folks, I have not yet purchased anything and that's why I let this thread keep going on.. I have been looking at the used market, like the NAD C352 and C372, but both these NAD amps that are on dba used market are located in Jylland that is far away from Copenhagen were I live, and I'm afraid if the NAD C372 is too powerful for my system. Does anyone here have some inputs on used market places where I can search within DKK 1500 - 2500 Danish Crowns (CAD $300 - $500) in Copenhagen?<<

'Math-Man' says: >>I can recommend NAD 317. I have this NAD model myself and it is delicious. Top NAD model in HiFi-Klubben some years ago. This NAD model is not quite new though.<<

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