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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:51 am 
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Please suggest some CAM or kijiji adds for the best sound I can buy for 300 to 700. Connecting to a chromecast audio and streaming FLAC + Spotify Premium. Speakers will probably be Energy rc70 because I can get them for $600 but I'm still debating.

Currently own: NAD amps (Lower end and adore them, the 326 is tempting). Image, Paradigm and Energy Speakers.

Music types: House, Rap, Hiphop, Rock, Alternative, and 'anything but country'.

The NAD C326BEE is a very nice sounding amp. If you want an amp that also can play at party levels, maybe a used NAD C372 is the way to go for. Energy RC70's are very popular. There's one from http://forums.redflagdeals.com/fs-energy-reference-connoisseur-rc-70-speaker-save-1500-pair-499-ea-1123965/ who prefer Klipsch RF-82's over Energy RC70's. Klipsch speakers are famous for their entertaining party sound with lots of punch, and should mate well with powerful amps like NAD (http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39238 --- http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649355005-klipsch-rf-82-tower-speakers/) , some prefer Klipsch while others prefer Energy, so it's not an easy choice.

'James_W' mentioned Roksan Kandy K1 which should be a very good amp as well within your budget. 'angust63' from http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15659 also says Roksan Kandy K1 is good. Arcam A85 should also be good https://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/arcam-a85-vs-roksan-kandy-ka1 , but there is no used Arcam A85 currently for sale.

There's also a used Roksan Kandy MkIII for sale http://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronics/edmonton/roksan-kandy-mk-3/1265052791

Good luck with the hunt.


I hate horn tweeters so much that the thought of Klipsch in my house gives me a headache. I missed a great deal on a NAD 326 in Winnipeg ($275), I should have bought that one. Thinking about the Peachtree in Gatineau and a couple other options. The Roksan Kandy looks great but I think he's trying to sell it locally. Buying with shipping on CAM is less scary than Kijiji.

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The Naim is too rich for my blood.

The NAD is sold 'just for parts'


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I missed a great deal on a NAD 326 in Winnipeg ($275), I should have bought that one. Thinking about the Peachtree in Gatineau and a couple other options. The Roksan Kandy looks great but I think he's trying to sell it locally. Buying with shipping on CAM is less scary than Kijiji.

Sorry to hear you missed that NAD 326 deal in Winnipeg. There is a NAD C356BEE for sale on http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649335844-nad-356bee/

That Peachtree Decco65 seems serious and should be on your short list.

There is Peachtree Nova 125 for sale on http://www.quebecaudio.com/occasions/index.php/annonces/ampli-peachtree-nova-125/ , High Gloss Black is among 3 finish choices. $760 is however a bit above your budget.

There are however tubes in those above mentioned Peachtree models. I don't know how long life span those tubes have before replacement. Some in https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/how-long-is-the-life-span-of-tube-amp.138377/ says that for normal listening, you can probably replace tubes every 2 to 3 years before replacement. When that time comes you need to go to a shop that can replace the tubes, or you either need to have audio electronic skills or know someone with audio electronic skills to replace the tubes. 'roynj7' from https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/how-to-open-a-peachtree-nova however says that the small tubes in Peachtree Nova have a long life span.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/tube-replacement-for-peachtree-decco65
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/anyone-heard-a-difference-with-upgraded-tube-in-peachtree-products.337812/


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The price of the Yamaha A-S801 has been dropped to $550 by the seller. A great deal for this integrated amp!

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649356525-yamaha-as801-black-with-builtin-dac-and-phono/


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:18 pm 
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ELOS wrote:
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I missed a great deal on a NAD 326 in Winnipeg ($275), I should have bought that one. Thinking about the Peachtree in Gatineau and a couple other options. The Roksan Kandy looks great but I think he's trying to sell it locally. Buying with shipping on CAM is less scary than Kijiji.

Sorry to hear you missed that NAD 326 deal in Winnipeg. There is a NAD C356BEE for sale on http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649335844-nad-356bee/

That Peachtree Decco65 seems serious and should be on your short list.

There is Peachtree Nova 125 for sale on http://www.quebecaudio.com/occasions/index.php/annonces/ampli-peachtree-nova-125/ , High Gloss Black is among 3 finish choices. $760 is however a bit above your budget.

There are however tubes in those above mentioned Peachtree models. I don't know how long life span those tubes have before replacement. Some in https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/how-long-is-the-life-span-of-tube-amp.138377/ says that for normal listening, you can probably replace tubes every 2 to 3 years before replacement. When that time comes you need to go to a shop that can replace the tubes, or you either need to have audio electronic skills or know someone with audio electronic skills to replace the tubes. 'roynj7' from https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/how-to-open-a-peachtree-nova however says that the small tubes in Peachtree Nova have a long life span.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/tube-replacement-for-peachtree-decco65


Wow thanks for the back story on the Decco65. I don't know anything about tubes and had no idea they had a short lifespan.


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The price of the Yamaha A-S801 has been dropped to $550 by the seller. A great deal for this integrated amp!

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649356525-yamaha-as801-black-with-builtin-dac-and-phono/


I agree that the 801 is a great deal and a terrific amp, what concerns me is that I've found every Yamaha I've ever heard flat. Not really musical and even a little bright. To be fair, they were much older AVR models whereas this is a proper integrated. I also love the computer connectivity, DAC, and uber headphone amp. It's compelling, I'm just worried I'd like a NAD better. Maybe I should just buy one of each.


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I owned a Yamaha A-S500 for a number of years. Excellent integrated. I did not find it gave up anything to the NAD C325BEE it replaced. And it had more power which I felt I needed.

Worth considering in my experience.

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I owned a Yamaha A-S500 for a number of years. Excellent integrated. I did not find it gave up anything to the NAD C325BEE it replaced. And it had more power which I felt I needed.

Worth considering in my experience.


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Music Hall or older Roksan Kandy III integrated.


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If you place Dali adjustable spike cones under the amp's feet, and silicone rubber sheet between amp's feet and cones, should according to rumors improve the sound even further. Draw circles on the silicone rubber sheet that fit the diameter size of the spike cones and place them on the cones before placing the cones on the amp's feet. It looks cool, and not only that, it has an important function, as the amp need lots of space around to release it's heat to breathe as overheating can cause serious damage to the relectronic components, also important that you don't place CD player or anything on the amp https://www.richersounds.com/information/tips_systemSetup , https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=45467&start=90

Also important to demagnetize the audio system sometimes, for more info check out https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=41014&start=45

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/nad-c326bee-or-yamaha-a-s500-for-bedroom-system.571412/
https://www.avforums.com/threads/yamaha-as500-or-nad-c326bee-for-kef-iq30.1482138/
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1334954-nad-c326bee-onkyo-9555-yamaha-s500.html

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-stereo-systems-home-theatre/edmonton/nad-356bee-integrated-amp/1257445785
http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649246312-nad-c-356bee-dac-stereo-integrated-amplifier/
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649354623-nad-356bee-lightly-demoed-with-original-box-and-remote-750-shipped/

https://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/yamaha-s500-vs-nad-c356bee
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Having demo'd both Yamaha A-S500 and NAD C356BEE amps (and the Yamaha AS100/200 amps as well) I'd personally go for the NAD C356BEE integrated amp if you're going with the B&W 683 speakers. The Yamaha A-S500 amp is good but it just doesnt have the overall guts and power to drive the B&W 683's at their best; the NAD C356BEE does & in bucket loads

'poupou' from http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37553&start=30 got 12g axiom speakercables for his NAD C320bee to start with. You can always upgrade to better speaker cables like for example Kimber Kable TC8, or DH Labs Silver Sonic Q10. And a matching interconnect cables between for example amp and CD player from Kimber, or Silver Sonic Air Matrix RCA.


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The only NAD models I've listened to so far so good is an old NAD preamp- and power amp combo from the early 1990's, and the NAD C326BEE, and NAD C375BEE. The C326bee and C375bee are the best I've heard from NAD, the C375bee as the ultimate performer. I've not heard the NAD C356bee yet, but that model should be in between C326bee and C375bee.

'Avanti1960' says that the NAD C356BEE beat a Marantz 2252 preamp and Sony ES power amp setup! http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/nad-c-356bee-ohhhhh-emmmmm-geeeeee.580133/
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'avanti1960' says: >>This NAD C356BEE amp literally blew me away with how good it sounds in all areas and how badly it made my Marantz 2252 preamp and Sony ES power amp sound in comparison, within my system, all else being equal. And that system sounded good, sometimes even great. But the new integrated NAD C356BEE is a whole new ball game. Like double A baseball vs. the MLB. It put my speakers on a whole new level as well, made them so much better sounding.<<

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/nad-c-356bee-ohhhhh-emmmmm-geeeeee.580133/page-2
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'Catcher10' says: >>Avanti1960...one inexpensive upgrade you should get is to replace the pre/main jumpers to some better ones, you will notice some improvement after about 100 hours. The Audio Quest ones are very good, I use these.<<

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/nad-c-356bee-ohhhhh-emmmmm-geeeeee.580133/page-3
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'Art K.' says: >>I used those jumpers with an NAD C326BEE and C325BEE and they really do make a difference.<<

'komoyuki' says: >>I still have the old jumpers and I can definitely tell you there is an audible difference between both.<<

'Avanti1960' says: >>After a good solid week of running the NAD C356BEE is definitely sounding "warmer" and more bass heavy than before. Not objectionable, but noticeable. It also seems to be a little louder in the upper midrange as well, and high frequency definition and extension is still present but a little smoother. Running through an assortment of CDs I noticed one that had some heavy sustained acoustic bass passages. Even at higher volume, neither the NAD C356BEE nor the PSB T-6 speakers showed any signs of strain reproducing those low, sustained, powerful bass notes. No BS here- it sounded nearly identical to a demo setup that I heard with a McIntosh 250 watt per channel integrated playing through Theil floorstanders! I was blown away at how my modest system compared to that one at literally 10X the price.<<

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/nad/c356bee/prd_477791_2717crx.aspx
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'Albert' says: >>I have owned Marantz 7000 & Yamaha A-S700 integrated amplifier few years ago as good amps in vocal, detailed, transparency & musical but when you are a music lover for pop & rock music, these Marantz and Yamaha amps lack speed, dynamic, punch & slam. I have NAD C356bee paired with PSB image B6, PSB subsonic 5i & Marantz CD6003, the whole music presentation through this entry level system is solid & powerful, warm, fast, detailed, dynamic & punchy ! The same system matched with NAD amp was totally different as compared to Marantz or Yamaha amp. This NAD C356BEE amp puts out 80 watts RMS on paper but the actual power is definitely more powerful than Marantz (95 watts) and Yamaha (90 watts), so amazing ! I strongly recommend this solid amp to every music lover or audiophile without hesitation.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/opinion-on-yamaha-amps
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'213runnin' says: >>One thing to note, the Yamaha A-S801 has an impedance switch on the back, to protect it from lower impedance loads. Something like this is generally thought of as cost saving and a compromise. Any integrated amp worth its weight will be able to drive down to 4 or even momentary 3 ohm loads without issue. None of the Nad integrated amps need or have such a switch, even their entry level C316BEE is rated for 4 ohm loads. It might be worth considering the Nad C356BEE for this reason, and the fact that all Nad amps have the superior toroidal transformers, and not the laminated core design that Yamaha employs in the 801.<<


NAD amps are solid built like a "tank" with serious electronic components, including the famous Hölmgren toroidal transformer that is partly responsible for the powerful sound. Notice the serious Hölmgren toroidal transformer inside the NAD C356BEE as shown below:
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And the NAD C372BEE that is for sale for CAD $500 on http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649349901-nad-c372-integrated-amp/ , what a steal!
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And the NAD C375BEE - Used unit for sale at USD $404 (currently 2 bids) on http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282492624276?clk_rvr_id=1220216235056&rmvSB=true
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/onkyo-2-channel-stereo-amplifier-black/4593800.p?skuId=4593800 , http://www.onkyo.ca/Products/model.php?m=A-9010&class=Amplifier ---> https://www.whathifi.com/onkyo/9010/review

https://www.whathifi.com/onkyo/9050/review
https://www.whathifi.com/onkyo/9030/review

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649351689-onkyo-a9070/

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/onkyo-a-9070-review.499569/


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http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649359359-anthem-mrx-500/

https://www.avforums.com/threads/anthem-mrx-510-with-music.1938502/
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'liamgdr' says: >>For what its worth, I recently swapped my budget 2 channel amp (Marantz pm6005) for a Anthem MRX 500! The first thing I noticed was how detailed the MRX 500 sounded in comparison to the Marantz two channel amp without loosing any warmth in the soundstage, the bass response was also better on the Anthem MRX 500 than the Marantz pm6005 two channel amp! generally everything sounds clean and composed on MRX 500<<


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In agreement the roksan mk lll is excellent build/sound/value, I was hoarding a couple for a while.

Nad 326 and 356BEE are great sounding amps too, the roksans are better and better values, in terms of everything IMO. The mklll and the 356BEE can be had for around similar costs, Id jump at the roksan given the choice.

I took a roksan in for new WTB posts the tech said roksan did them right every link in the chain has quality parts. The stock posts only accept bare wire, so mine were switched. Oh, you will love the beefy supplies in them too.


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http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/914008-onkyo-versus-nad.html
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'warpdrive' says: >>I don't think it's realistic to expect that NAD is twice as good as Onkyo, or any other brand. Having owned a NAD receiver before (775) and then moving to a Yamaha and now an Onkyo, I will admit that the NAD did sound nicer. I've owned Pioneer, Denon and HK gear as well. I still believe that NAD stuff is mostly nicer sounding than Denon, HK, Pioneer, Yamaha or Onkyo (all of which I lump into the "good mass market brands"), but the margin is something like 10-20% better sounding. The other thing about NAD is they've always done 2 channel listening well, it sounds more like a single piece of hifi gear rather than some HT controller, the sound is smoother, less harsh, has more depth and detail.<<


http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649351943-roksan-kandy-ka1-integrated-amp/

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/amplifiers/roksan/kandy-ka-1-110-watts-per-channel-integrated-amplifier/prd_128810_1583crx.aspx
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>>A 5-star rating from What Hi-Fi prompted me to seek out the KA-1 for a listen. I also listended to various Creek, Arcam, Cambridge Audio, Rega, Linn (used), Rotel and NAD before deciding the Roksan was the best sounding amp around $1500 Cdn., not to mention its build quality. With about 300 hrs use, the amp is npw starting to reveal just about everything that's on a CD with warmth, openness and alacrity, not to mention awesome soundstaging. Especially fantastic with vocals like Diana Krall and Norah Jones, but with all types of music I put it through the KA-1 treats them with accuracy and neutrality. A very good compromise between the laid-backness of Arcam, Creek and Rega and the disco punchiness character of NAD.<<, by 'SaabKen'

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/roksan/kandy-mkiii/prd_290149_2717crx.aspx
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>>This is a stunning product !! Power and finesse with a smooth overall presentation. For example my a bit weak Naim could not drive my pair of PMC DB1+. I was so disspointed with the result that I nearly was selling the speakers. Then a blind purchase: the Roksan Kandy Mk III. Wow !! The speakers are living. Soundstage and powerful sound without any harshness. I am now a PMC fan so you can imagine how good the amp must be.<< , by 'James Bond'


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https://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/arcam-a85-vs-roksan-kandy-ka1
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'JoelSim' says: >>I have an Arcam A85 which is fantastic<<

https://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/arcam-a85-still-any-good
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'MUSICRAFT' says: >>I'll suggest that you also consider Rotel's superb RA-1062. The RA-1062 is simply a much better amplifier as i and nearly all of my clients who compared the two also discovered over a period of two years regardless of associated components used.<<

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/rotel/ra-1062/prd_298747_2717crx.aspx
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'ryanianmckinnon' says: >>I was in the process of upgrading my system at the time, i was selling my old Denon amp (pma 2000r) and looking to upgrade to something newer and hopefully with a warranty. I was looking on canuckaudiomart and i stumbled onto this unit, it was exactly what i wanted for the price i wanted and still had 3 years on the warranty. After purchasing this unit i took it home and unplugged everything from my old amp and hooked it up to this and within minutes i was listening to it. All i can say is wow what a great amp at first i didnt notice any difference from the denon pma 2000r, but then i put on some music tracks from Scorpions and then it hit me. There was ALOT more detail in the song more than i ever though there could be. I was amazed at how clear it was.<<

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* http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142261058554?clk_rvr_id=1228559936754&rmvSB=true --- (http://www.onkyo.ca/Products/model.php?m=A-9555&class=Amplifier)

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/which-budget-integrated-amp-rotel-nad-or-other
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'sfar' says: >>The amp I would recommend over either Rotel or NAD in that price range is the Onkyo A-9555. It's built in Japan and both the build quality and sound are exceptional.<<

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/onkyo/a-9555/prd_372683_2717crx.aspx
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'Jaap' says: >>I bought this Onkyo A-9555 amp cheaply (350 euro) to replace my Meridian 555 and 501 ampset to put my Planars 1.5 SE to work properly. The Meridian pre-amp is quite good too but liked the Meridian 501 better regarding the sound. The Meridian 555 did not have the power to sound good with the planars, the Onkyo does that without any fatigue.<<

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