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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:05 am 
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The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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...really?...I thought I only had a few "levels"... :D

No Stone, you're like an onion, there are many layers. :lol:

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...and each layer will make someone cry... :mrgreen:

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The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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Did you read the link?


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Screw the politics. I thoroughly enjoyed Ayn Rand's books, many years ago.

Who cares what here political views were. Her books were mostly about individuals who refused to break, their struggle and ultimately leading to achieving their lofty goals.

Inspiring.

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Inspiring?

She modeled Howard Roark after a serial killer. She was completely smitten with the sociopath. That firmness of character came from mental illness. There is no surprise that modern leaders who are proponents of Rand behave as sociopaths as well.


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Bumpy wrote:
Winter_vinyl wrote:
The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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Did you read the link?


Both Sears & Lululemon with business models influenced by Rand….in the case of the Lululemon CEO,an Atlas Shrugged fanboy,the company’s vision was shaped by it.

….the lesson for B& M retailers may be that the demise of your organization is staring you in the face & is all around you as soon as you open your doors……as CEO,it’s your job to look for what’s creeping up on you & your business model,and react quickly.

One did the job, the other didn’t…….although,as the Sears Salon link indicated…..’for a while,the Ayn Rand influence worked like a charm'.


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Bumpy wrote:
Winter_vinyl wrote:
The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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Did you read the link?


Yes, and as interesting as it is, the Alternet article only explains why Sears failed, not why the middle-class driven retail market in the broader sense is struggling. Ayn Rand is the godmother of greed and predatory capitalism and her ideas contributed to the current state of wealth inequality, but it is the disappearance of the modest middle-class and their buying power that killed off middle-tier retail like Sears, et al.

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Guys, there are plenty of places on the internet for political debate, CAM is not one of them. If you want to rant about the perils of capitalism, why not go join your comrades at a more appropriate forum?


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electrafixion wrote:
Guys, there are plenty of places on the internet for political debate, CAM is not one of them. If you want to rant about the perils of capitalism, why not go join your comrades at a more appropriate forum?


Well...now you'd be wrong (not that I ever was :D )...The Lounge is precisely all things non-audio...once economics enters into a discussion...it's pretty hard for politics not too...unless you lack a certain breadth of understanding...right?

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Well...now you'd be wrong (not that I ever was :D )...The Lounge is precisely all things non-audio...once economics enters into a discussion...it's pretty hard for politics not too...unless you lack a certain breadth of understanding...right?

OK, fair point. Perhaps a dedicated thread on the perils of capitalism or the decline of the middle class would more appropriate, as this seems to have veered very far from the original topic.


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We live in Canada which is a capitalist country.

There are **** salespeople and **** walk-ins.

There are happy salespeople and happy customers.

Which do you prefer to be?

Drop the trivial ****. If you wanted to purchase an item that you believe was recently marked higher you could have politely told them and asked for the lower price. Asking questions with no buying sign apparent to the sales guy means it's a non buying question, what should he do?

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Alex, Geddy and Neil were big Ayn Rand fans and it worked out OK for them.

Case in point:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UWHEcIbhDiw

Seems to me this conversation should have taken place at the offending stereo shop with the guy eating his sandwich in “real time”. The guy might have apologized and helped you out. It seems real, one on one personal communication is a dying convention.

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Since the thread is called Audio Dealers With Bad Attitude, I will share an experience related to the topic.

Recently I was shopping for a USB A to B cable to connect my phone to my DAC. I went to a local dealer where I'd previously purchased a few things, and asked for what my options were. Long story short, I had to order one since they didn't carry the Audioquest model/length I needed.

A few days later I found another cable I wanted, and phoned up the store to ask for options, but no one answered, so I left a message. I ended up phoning a few times on successive days with no luck, and later realized that their business hours were 11am to 5pm! I finally got a live person, who quoted me a price. I noticed that the US retail was much cheaper, and emailed Audioquest about this. They actually sent me two emails within 24 hours, and in one apologized because the online price list for Canada was high by over 100 dollars. They also said that new cables were being introduced shortly, I might be interested in waiting. I'll say at this point that Audioquest's service down in California was much better than the local dealer.

So I tried to call the store again because the price I was quoted was high according to Audioquest. Again no luck, so I sent an email outlining this issue. I finally got a call back, and the manager said he'd take my word about the price difference(I can't believe he didn't check with Audioquest, or else he'd be overcharging everyone) and order the cable for me at the lower price. I said I'd talk to him when I came into the store, since the cable I wanted was being replaced shortly I didn't think full retail was worth it.

So I went to the store last Saturday, and got there around 2:30pm. They were closed. As I left I phoned their number and left a message saying I was at the store but it was closed, please let me know when I should visit them. I got a call back 15 minutes later, the manager apologized and wanted to order the cable for me. I declined.

I've never dealt with any establishment that is so hard to contact! And is so poorly informed on what price they should charge, it took a customer emailing THEIR supplier to find out they were quoting me the wrong prices. I was looking to spend several hundred over the next few months and also looking for an end game pair of speakers. There is no way in hell that I'm going to drop another cent at this store. Can you blame me?

Come to think of it, I have no idea whether the price I paid for the first cable I ordered was high. It took them two weeks to get it in btw, which is another reason to avoid them. I can order the same cable on line at the lower US price, and get it in a week, avoiding call backs and closed stores at the same time.

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Or, you could have just asked any computer guy who likely has a whole boxful of USB A to B cables they can't bear to throw away.


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