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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:05 am 
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The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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...really?...I thought I only had a few "levels"... :D

No Stone, you're like an onion, there are many layers. :lol:

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...and each layer will make someone cry... :mrgreen:

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Winter_vinyl wrote:
The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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Did you read the link?


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Screw the politics. I thoroughly enjoyed Ayn Rand's books, many years ago.

Who cares what here political views were. Her books were mostly about individuals who refused to break, their struggle and ultimately leading to achieving their lofty goals.

Inspiring.

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Inspiring?

She modeled Howard Roark after a serial killer. She was completely smitten with the sociopath. That firmness of character came from mental illness. There is no surprise that modern leaders who are proponents of Rand behave as sociopaths as well.


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Bumpy wrote:
Winter_vinyl wrote:
The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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Did you read the link?


Both Sears & Lululemon with business models influenced by Rand….in the case of the Lululemon CEO,an Atlas Shrugged fanboy,the company’s vision was shaped by it.

….the lesson for B& M retailers may be that the demise of your organization is staring you in the face & is all around you as soon as you open your doors……as CEO,it’s your job to look for what’s creeping up on you & your business model,and react quickly.

One did the job, the other didn’t…….although,as the Sears Salon link indicated…..’for a while,the Ayn Rand influence worked like a charm'.


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Bumpy wrote:
Winter_vinyl wrote:
The reason Sears is dying is purely economic, specifically the fact that Sears was a store pitched to the middle class, an economic class rapidly disappearing as the manufacturing base and other unionized positions disappear. Disastrous financial policy in the US and Canada have largely benefited the rich and shifted a large swath of the population from middle-class to lower class, leading to the proliferation of Dollar stores and the growth of Walmart while Zellers, K-Mart, Kressgies, Woodwords, Woolworths, Eatons, and The Bay took the hit. Wealth disparity may well be the single most disruptive force in our time.

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Did you read the link?


Yes, and as interesting as it is, the Alternet article only explains why Sears failed, not why the middle-class driven retail market in the broader sense is struggling. Ayn Rand is the godmother of greed and predatory capitalism and her ideas contributed to the current state of wealth inequality, but it is the disappearance of the modest middle-class and their buying power that killed off middle-tier retail like Sears, et al.

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Guys, there are plenty of places on the internet for political debate, CAM is not one of them. If you want to rant about the perils of capitalism, why not go join your comrades at a more appropriate forum?


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Guys, there are plenty of places on the internet for political debate, CAM is not one of them. If you want to rant about the perils of capitalism, why not go join your comrades at a more appropriate forum?


Well...now you'd be wrong (not that I ever was :D )...The Lounge is precisely all things non-audio...once economics enters into a discussion...it's pretty hard for politics not too...unless you lack a certain breadth of understanding...right?

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Well...now you'd be wrong (not that I ever was :D )...The Lounge is precisely all things non-audio...once economics enters into a discussion...it's pretty hard for politics not too...unless you lack a certain breadth of understanding...right?

OK, fair point. Perhaps a dedicated thread on the perils of capitalism or the decline of the middle class would more appropriate, as this seems to have veered very far from the original topic.


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We live in Canada which is a capitalist country.

There are **** salespeople and **** walk-ins.

There are happy salespeople and happy customers.

Which do you prefer to be?

Drop the trivial ****. If you wanted to purchase an item that you believe was recently marked higher you could have politely told them and asked for the lower price. Asking questions with no buying sign apparent to the sales guy means it's a non buying question, what should he do?

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