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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:43 pm 
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Scroll up to find out how the Sky Tower sounds? Which dealer has them? Whether they are officially released?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:03 pm 
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runnin wrote:
I'm wondering what price range the Sky Tower will end up


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The Sky tower will be in our traditional line offering excellent performance at an affordable package $2000-2500.


I too am curious of the sound and how much better it is than the Sky bookshelf! Having heard the Arro and Hawk, I'm looking for a decent upgrade in resolution, personally. Might need to go tribe tower but at $5k+ I dunno.


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5k can probably get you a ProAc model with ribbon tweeter which is a hard act to follow for other compact towers. Hopefully the soft dome tweeter on the Tribe tower makes pairing easier. I had nothing but grief with the Fire and Earth before finding the right match.

It looks like they are using something other than a Morel DPC driver on the sky tower? it could just be the pic I saw. I wonder if that was a cost cutting or performance decision. A side by side comparison with Hawks on a good amp would be interesting.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:50 am 
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PBB wrote:
Totem sure makes nice furniture.


Touche'.

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msommers wrote:
runnin wrote:
I'm wondering what price range the Sky Tower will end up


msommers wrote:
The Sky tower will be in our traditional line offering excellent performance at an affordable package $2000-2500.


I too am curious of the sound and how much better it is than the Sky bookshelf! Having heard the Arro and Hawk, I'm looking for a decent upgrade in resolution, personally. Might need to go tribe tower but at $5k+ I dunno.


At $5K, consider a used pair of KEF Reference 1's; and discover a GREAT loudspeaker !

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The past 5-years has uncovered a wealth of spectacular new drive-unit architecture, yet Totem marches on with decades old technology?

If the product represented some amazing value proposition, I could understand, but at its price-point consumers should be much more demanding.


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runnin wrote:
Scroll up to find out how the Sky Tower sounds? Which dealer has them? Whether they are officially released?


Have/has any of the Totem faithful considered another Canadian brand -Reference 3A ?


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The past 5-years has uncovered a wealth of spectacular new drive-unit architecture, yet Totem marches on with decades old technology?

If the product represented some amazing value proposition, I could understand, but at its price-point consumers should be much more demanding.


Totem's cabinets are domestically hand made with lock mitred joints. Most of them are veneered on the inside as well as the outside with custom MDF. All of this costs money, and paying Canadian artisans a good wage instead of throwing some coins at Chinese factory workers, is going to add to the retail price. The drivers are also sourced from high end non-Chinese based companies, and then modified for Totem, again, adding expense to the price. I'm sure one can find cheaper but personally I like Totem's approach.

Totem's higher end lines such as the Tribe or Element have new drive unit approaches, but if one doesn't like Totem, there are many others out there.

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runnin wrote:
allhifi wrote:
The past 5-years has uncovered a wealth of spectacular new drive-unit architecture, yet Totem marches on with decades old technology?

If the product represented some amazing value proposition, I could understand, but at its price-point consumers should be much more demanding.


Totem's cabinets are domestically hand made with lock mitred joints. Most of them are veneered on the inside as well as the outside with custom MDF. All of this costs money, and paying Canadian artisans a good wage instead of throwing some coins at Chinese factory workers, is going to add to the retail price. The drivers are also sourced from high end non-Chinese based companies, and then modified for Totem, again, adding expense to the price. I'm sure one can find cheaper but personally I like Totem's approach.

Totem's higher end lines such as the Tribe or Element have new drive unit approaches, but if one doesn't like Totem, there are many others out there.


Well said!

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I just had a good listen to the new Sky Tower, at my local dealer, and I have to say, I am extremely impressed...the bass is deep, fast and tight, and the top is smooth. The soundstage is wide, not as tall as the Hawks (which i never cared for). Typical Totem build quality and pricing at around 2700, don't quote me on that, seems to be good value.
The extra price on the Staffs, is well worth it, for my ears anyway


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Thanks for the impressions!


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The Tribe towers will certainly have a great amt of competition at the MSRP. Ive often wondered about a comparison of Reference 3A and Element Ember. Being an owner of Hawks and having auditioned 3A biwired with AudioNote power -I have a curiousity about the Torrent drivers.


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I'm curious how the Forest compares to the Sky tower.


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runnin wrote:
allhifi wrote:
The past 5-years has uncovered a wealth of spectacular new drive-unit architecture, yet Totem marches on with decades old technology?

If the product represented some amazing value proposition, I could understand, but at its price-point consumers should be much more demanding.


Totem's cabinets are domestically hand made with lock mitred joints. Most of them are veneered on the inside as well as the outside with custom MDF. All of this costs money, and paying Canadian artisans a good wage instead of throwing some coins at Chinese factory workers, is going to add to the retail price. The drivers are also sourced from high end non-Chinese based companies, and then modified for Totem, again, adding expense to the price. I'm sure one can find cheaper but personally I like Totem's approach.

Totem's higher end lines such as the Tribe or Element have new drive unit approaches, but if one doesn't like Totem, there are many others out there.


I see:
* Custom MDF no less !

* Although they may (Totem) don't be so sure they pay their workers "living wages"

* Totem doesn't use Chinese drive-units ? (They certainly did throughout 2000-2010 -perhaps even today).

* Ask yourself how the drivers are attached to the baffle ? (Wood-screws I bet. And what are these things
priced at?)

* What you get and what it's priced at represents a major chasm.

* No respectable 3-way design -how and why ? (Ones'e left with a compromised, high-distortion 2-way -
that nearly anyone today can slap together.

* Yes, one can do better -much better -the NET is a great learning tool.

Yes, some Totem's are musical and engaging. If valued at half of current pricing, the brand would represent some value.

BTW, Totem's new in-house driver is indeed an excellent main driver. Does anyone know how it is attached to the baffle-board -bolts, or wood-screws?

These are some serious considerations for anyone looking to fork over thousands-of-dollars.

If you wish to see how a premium loudspeaker is constructed, consider the current KEF Reference series; KEF has an 'exploded' view of enclosure and drive-unit fastening techniques.
Although the REF 1's at $8-9K/pr. (CA$) ain't cheap, its construction detail should be used as a reference as how things should be done.

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L-Man wrote:
I'm curious how the Forest compares to the Sky tower.


Yep, inquiring minds want to know! There's still nothing up on their website, hopefully that is updated soon.

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runnin wrote:

The drivers are also sourced from high end non-Chinese based companies, and then modified for Totem


Not completely true. They do source from Scan-Speak, Morel and Sea’s (if these are even still made in their originating countries), but also use Chinese made Pearless, HiVi and Polk Audio drivers. And they don’t always modify the driver(s), many are off the shelf units.


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No shortage of affordable drivers in Totem speakers. Most are quite cheap for the MSRP of the speakers.


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