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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:12 pm 
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Elucidate wrote:
I'll order the Mjolnir 2 with the LISST option.


I can't speak to the LISST option as I never had it but it places the amp in the SS camp which I just don't think is that great (at least for music).

The HD800 and slam in the same sentence is interesting but happy for owners if they experience such.

Slam and impact comes to mind in something like an Audeze LCD-XC or TH600, for example. With the Mjo 2 playing Massive Attack - Angel...you feel impact :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:20 pm 
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I have a LH Labs Geek Pulse Xfi and a Geek Pulse Infinity as well. These two Dacs have a very good headphone output that is also balanced. They work extremely well with hard to drive headphones.

Here is a link to some info on them. If you have anymore questions let me know.

https://www.audiostream.com/content/lh- ... ply-4-lps4

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Bill


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:12 pm 
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I used my locally made Space Tech labs tube dac buffered with marconi 6L6G smoked coke bottles with super rectifier power supply to feed my Burson Virtuoso. I'll have to say it made my modified HD800 wonderfully musical and detailed. Hard to ever say the HD800 can be a musical HP :P

My take on the HD800S or modified HD800 is a hyper detailed exciting headphone. I think this is where tubes is beneficial to tame the extremely dynamic wild ride you get with that headphone.

I think auditioning an amp with your HP is the best ideal method of choosing an amp.

Why not head over to Headphone bar on main street. Test the hd800S with any of the amps in the store.


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I used my locally made Space Tech labs tube dac buffered with marconi 6L6G smoked coke bottles with super rectifier power supply to feed my Burson Virtuoso. I'll have to say it made my modified HD800 wonderfully musical and detailed. Hard to ever say the HD800 can be a musical HP :P

My take on the HD800S or modified HD800 is a hyper detailed exciting headphone. I think this is where tubes is beneficial to tame the extremely dynamic wild ride you get with that headphone.

I think auditioning an amp with your HP is the best ideal method of choosing an amp.

Why not head over to Headphone bar on main street. Test the hd800S with any of the amps in the store.


Amazing place! I've been there quite a few times (granted not since they moved). From what I remember they used to carry schiit products too. That's why I wish headphone meets were a thing here in Vancouver. Being able to demo products would be my preferred choice instead of blind buying.

Has anyone ordered directly from schiit before? If so, how hard did you get hit with duties/taxes? Also, USPS or FedEx?

Cheers 8)


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Elucidate wrote:
Amazing place! I've been there quite a few times (granted not since they moved). From what I remember they used to carry schiit products too. That's why I wish headphone meets were a thing here in Vancouver. Being able to demo products would be my preferred choice instead of blind buying.

Has anyone ordered directly from schiit before? If so, how hard did you get hit with duties/taxes? Also, USPS or FedEx?

Cheers 8)


I think Shiit makes a great product, but I would be a bit hesitant buying one of their amps blindly (or any amp) if your intent is to pair it with a HD800. Any other HP maybe. Not saying the combination will not work well together, never heard them so can’t comment, but as mentioned earlier the HD800 is not a forgiving HP. However, if you are dead set on a Shiit amplifier, you’d have no problem reselling it if it is not to your liking.

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I can't speak to the LISST option as I never had it but it places the amp in the SS camp which I just don't think is that great (at least for music).

The HD800 and slam in the same sentence is interesting but happy for owners if they experience such.

Slam and impact comes to mind in something like an Audeze LCD-XC or TH600, for example. With the Mjo 2 playing Massive Attack - Angel...you feel impact :lol:


Never heard TH600 or the LCD-XC – do own the LCD-2 Rev 2. Bit of a apples to oranges comparison, open back vs closed. But comparing the HD800 and LCD-2 with Massive Attack – Angel through the Bryston, I’d say they both display an equal amount of slam…enough to rattle your fillings. You can definitely feel those bass notes on your face. With this particular song I will give the LCD-2, with its more forgiving nature the slight edge over the HD800. But take something with a little more detail, especially in the lower to mid bass frequencies such as Primus Ol’ Diamondback Sturgeon (Primus was queued up on my playlist) which also has a pretty powerful drum beat and I would easily hand it to the HD800 with it’s speed and ability to extract the finest of details. Again, plenty of slam and not hyper detailed as mentioned above - but that is just my perspective :D

If slam is all you are after, I am sure there are definitely better suited cans out there than the HD800. But give them the amplification they crave they will punch you in the face! To each their own, right?


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Absolutely. Sounds like I'll have to try that combo :)


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I've also bought and sold HD800 a couple of times. SDR mod really was the difference in them sticking around this time - not applicable to HD800S. Also owned the HD800S and preferred my SDR modded HD800 as I felt the bass leaked into the midrange and weren't as transparent nor open sounding.

Used a lot of amps on the HD800. On the cheap the best I've heard and owned is the Gustard H10 w/LME49720HA's and AD797BRZ's (on adapters) sounds better to me then the highly regarded Violectric V200, and at half the cost! Schitt Valhalla is good too but the Gustard has it beat. BHA-1 was too bright although brought terrific bass response to the HD800. Lake People G109P was surprisingly good but still trumped by the Gustard.

Best I've heard and owned is the CMA800R, no solid state amp really comes close TBH. Would like to try the Wolf Audio Natayo some day though! If you can't wait for a CMA800R to come up on the used market I'd just go with the Gustard in the interim, it's a great match and not just for it's price. When a CMA800R comes up snatch it up and sell off the Gustard. My two cents at least.


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I would still suggest looking into the bottlehead crack. I still think any tube amp that would roll off a bit of the high's while adding pleasant harmonics would relax the HD800 a bit.

In my case I colour the source with tube harmonics and use solid state for amplification. Nothing is set in stone in how you enjoy your headphones.


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Well, impatience got the better of me. Thank you everyone for your recommendations and opinions.

I just placed the order for a Mjolnir 2 w/ tubes so hopefully (knocks on wood) that will suffice until I get the chance to demo a superior alternative. Will be keeping an eye out for the CMA800R as well!


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Congrats on the new Schiit!

What DAC are you running?


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msommers wrote:
Congrats on the new Schiit!

What DAC are you running?


Thank you, sir!

I ordered the Modi 2 MB variant as a precaution (and budget concerns) in case I end up hating the sound signature of the Mjolnir 2. If all goes well I'll probably move up the ladder and pull the trigger on the Gungnir MB.

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Elucidate wrote:
msommers wrote:
Congrats on the new Schiit!

What DAC are you running?


Thank you, sir!

I ordered the Modi 2 MB variant as a precaution (and budget concerns) in case I end up hating the sound signature of the Mjolnir 2. If all goes well I'll probably move up the ladder and pull the trigger on the Gungnir MB.

Best regards,

Michael


Many ways to skin a cat!!

My space tech tube amp and power supply was quite spendy. However with my budget 02 headphone amp my modified HD800 sound incredible. The coloured harmonics of the organic tube dac gets amplified by a relatively clean 02 amp. This combo sound fantastic!!!!

The DAC is equally as important to the SQ. If you do not like the sound of the Gungnir I'd highly recommending testing different DAC's.

The only person you have to make happy is you :)

Happy spending $$$$ what an evil hobby!!


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Elucidate wrote:
Well, impatience got the better of me. Thank you everyone for your recommendations and opinions.

I just placed the order for a Mjolnir 2 w/ tubes so hopefully (knocks on wood) that will suffice until I get the chance to demo a superior alternative. Will be keeping an eye out for the CMA800R as well!


Congrats on the buy. Report back – would be curious to hear your impressions.

Meant to ask earlier – what games are you into?


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Elucidate wrote:
Well, impatience got the better of me. Thank you everyone for your recommendations and opinions.

I just placed the order for a Mjolnir 2 w/ tubes so hopefully (knocks on wood) that will suffice until I get the chance to demo a superior alternative. Will be keeping an eye out for the CMA800R as well!


Congrats on the buy. Report back – would be curious to hear your impressions.

Meant to ask earlier – what games are you into?


Thanks. Will do!

With regards to your question: I play a wide variety of genres now that I'm older but I'll always be a FPS junkie. I used to play CS competitively when I was in high-school but those days are long gone. I also played WoW for a few years whilst in uni. Great times indeed...


Right now I'm playing a lot of BF1 (love the entire battlefield franchise). The Witcher 3 gets an honorable mention as well for its amazing story/sheer beauty - it really puts my 1080ti to the test @ 4K.

What about you?


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Elucidate wrote:
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Elucidate wrote:
Well, impatience got the better of me. Thank you everyone for your recommendations and opinions.

I just placed the order for a Mjolnir 2 w/ tubes so hopefully (knocks on wood) that will suffice until I get the chance to demo a superior alternative. Will be keeping an eye out for the CMA800R as well!


Congrats on the buy. Report back – would be curious to hear your impressions.

Meant to ask earlier – what games are you into?


Thanks. Will do!

With regards to your question: I play a wide variety of genres now that I'm older but I'll always be a FPS junkie. I used to play CS competitively when I was in high-school but those days are long gone. I also played WoW for a few years whilst in uni. Great times indeed...


Right now I'm playing a lot of BF1 (love the entire battlefield franchise). The Witcher 3 gets an honorable mention as well for its amazing story/sheer beauty - it really puts my 1080ti to the test @ 4K.

What about you?


Love the COD Black Op’s series and play BO III regularly. Also enjoy racing SIM’s. Currently playing F1 2017 and counting the days for Project Cars 2 to hit the market.

I own Witcher 3 but just can’t get into it for reasons unknown. Have you seen Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice? Game play doesn't look to be the greatest but the graphics are phenomenal!!

What monitor are you using at 4K? I’m in the market for a new monitor but think 4k would be a little too much for my dual 980 in SLI. Not ready to invest in a new GPU just yet. The pair of 980's handle WQHD gaming resolutions just fine.


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