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 Post subject: "Acoustic Carpets"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:44 pm 
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Hey,

I am really thinking about looking at room conditioning/treatments and will take the time to try and learn the basics of it.
But, I was thinking of a real quick attempt at room treatments.
That being, an area rug added to my listening area.
Reading some google searches, it seems that acoustic carpets have a high thread count, deep pile and are sheared.
You don't seem to want a sealed back to the carpet and essentially the Persian carpets tend to be the top choice.

In my instance, my stereo is in the basement with a wall-to-wall tight Burber carpet.

Do you think that adding a quality area rug to the floor would add to the sound and if so, how?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:07 pm 
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I've long had similar ideas and wondered if the difference was worth it, but never got around to trying it. Oh, there was also the expense of the Persian carpet, which I would have preferred to put into more kit or LP's.
Will be interested in seeing if anyone has experience with this idea and have comments.

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As you have mentioned that your listening area is already carpeted in a wall to wall Berber type carpet, I doubt if any further benefits would be realized by adding another piece of carpet to the floor area. Aside from the visual pop an oriental carpet provides, I believe that you would be far better off experimenting with bass traps. An easy way and cost free way to check this out would be to remove the areas seating cushions and prop them up in the rooms corners etc., and see what if any changes are to your liking. Btw, I got this idea from a similar previous post on Cam, so I can't take credit for the idea.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:52 am 
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Hi DWT.
I recently bought wall diffusers and they work very well to "deaden" the liveliness of my room.
Your wall to wall carpet is pretty good for the floor if it has the insulation foamunderpapping.
I have a 7×10 thick pile area rug on my apartment parquey floor and it works wonders.
I also bought a large office divider panel for another wall.
There are many Diy improvements you can do but I concentrated on my walls as they were a culprit in my place. Basetraps are great for corners and wool curtains over windows work exceptionally well.
Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:06 am 
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Rugs are used to tame the high-frequency reflections off the floor. Putting a rug over your Berber carpet will make a total absorption layer thicker, so you'd be able absorb just a little bit more lower notes (i.e. high mids)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:08 am 
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Chipmunk1957 wrote:
Hi DWT.
I recently bought wall diffusers and they work very well to "deaden" the liveliness of my room.
Your wall to wall carpet is pretty good for the floor if it has the insulation foamunderpapping.
I have a 7×10 thick pile area rug on my apartment parquey floor and it works wonders.
I also bought a large office divider panel for another wall.
There are many Diy improvements you can do but I concentrated on my walls as they were a culprit in my place. Basetraps are great for corners and wool curtains over windows work exceptionally well.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Chipmunk....Your set-up looks really well thought out and um, very cool.
Thanks for the info and Joe...will try the cushions in the back of the speaker area.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:45 pm 
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Adding an area rug to your carpeted floor will make a minimal difference at best (if you even notice).

Adding wall treatments to address 1st and 2nd reflections will help more, and corner bass treatments will add to that. If you are sitting with your head within a few feet of the back wall, a skyline diffusor or other diffusor will probably help the most.

Having a carpeted floor helps a lot, but if you walk through your room and clap and speak loudly and hear the echo or reverberation then the above steps will help address that. Carpet will help a great deal, but is only part of it.

I am in the middle of replacing my wall treatments (home made and not decoratively enticing) and while my room is not horrible, it still sucks to me since I know what it previously sounded like.

Without going crazy with room nodes and placement, contact Scott at Wave Acoustic (CAM sponsor) for a couple of wall treatments. It will cost 100-200 dollars and if you place them properly, it will be worth a component upgrade at least.

Take the time and try it, it is well worth the time and effort. If WAF is a factor they offer pre-printed treatments as well. (no affiliation with them, I just found them really helpful when asking questions)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:35 pm 
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Kartmn wrote:
Adding an area rug to your carpeted floor will make a minimal difference at best (if you even notice).

Adding wall treatments to address 1st and 2nd reflections will help more, and corner bass treatments will add to that. If you are sitting with your head within a few feet of the back wall, a skyline diffusor or other diffusor will probably help the most.

Having a carpeted floor helps a lot, but if you walk through your room and clap and speak loudly and hear the echo or reverberation then the above steps will help address that. Carpet will help a great deal, but is only part of it.

I am in the middle of replacing my wall treatments (home made and not decoratively enticing) and while my room is not horrible, it still sucks to me since I know what it previously sounded like.

Without going crazy with room nodes and placement, contact Scott at Wave Acoustic (CAM sponsor) for a couple of wall treatments. It will cost 100-200 dollars and if you place them properly, it will be worth a component upgrade at least.

Take the time and try it, it is well worth the time and effort. If WAF is a factor they offer pre-printed treatments as well. (no affiliation with them, I just found them really helpful when asking questions)


That is really truly what sparked my interest in room treatment...my favourite SP character.
I saw a small add on our site here and clicked on it and they have a link to submit pictures and room dimensions and they will then
suggest what to buy from them.("Wave Acoustics")
I want to do that because I really have tried to grasp acoustics and how to maximize sound quality but man, it is beyond me.
That is why I started with a "what if" thread with a simple carpet question. lol

Thanks


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:21 am 
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Get some real acoustic panels this is by far your best bang for the buck. My 2 cents of course.


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