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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:16 am 
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Real dumb question here, so be warned:

If I bought any old USB (type B) to ethernet adaptor cable and plugged from my DAC to my router, could I somehow control my streaming service through wifi (laptop, phone?). Basically, I want to change my computer > USB cable > DAC to a computer/phone > wifi > DAC scenario.

I know it's silly. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:30 am 
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No, it wont work.

You need a streaming device, for example a Bryston BPD or Moon Mind.
Alternatively you could build a Raspberry Pi streamer that will connect to your USB DAC for under $75.

Or you could install software on the current computer (Foobar, JRiver) that is controlled by a smartphone/tablet/laptop.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:43 am 
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Jared Rachwalski wrote:
Or you could install software on the current computer (Foobar, JRiver) that is controlled by a smartphone/tablet/laptop.


Just do this, and I can stream through wifi? I had no idea...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:47 am 
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The "streaming" is still done through the USB, only the control of the streamer is done over wifi.


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You would have to find an app that will "push" the music on the phone, but you need something to convert the wi-fi signal into something the DAC can use.

if you just want to control what you play with a phone, that is easily done. I can do that with my Squeezebox using an android app on the phone. Maybe one of those programs like JRiver can do it without the Squeezebox.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:13 am 
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Jared Rachwalski wrote:
No, it wont work.

You need a streaming device, for example a Bryston BPD or Moon Mind.
Alternatively you could build a Raspberry Pi streamer that will connect to your USB DAC for under $75.

Or you could install software on the current computer (Foobar, JRiver) that is controlled by a smartphone/tablet/laptop.

Jared is quite correct. I would suggest using a SOtM SMS-200 if you already have a DAC with a good USB input:

https://sotm-usa.com/collections/advanc ... k-player-1

Once you have a network endpoint added to your system there's a variety of free DNLA / UPnP server and client applications that you can use to control playback. An even better option is Roon software, and you'll get a 60 day free trial with the SOtM purchase, or a discount on a Roon licence. I switched from a Simaudio Mind 180 to the SOtM SMS-200, and it was a significant performance improvement.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:22 am 
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Raspberry Pi 3 can stream over wifi and ethernet with a coax out with a Hifiberry Digi+ Pro. It can also do Airplay however I've found it to be pretty spotty and not that reliable which sucks considering that's the only reason I bought one!


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If you have some technical skill, icecast will definitely do the job:

http://icecast.org/

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electrafixion wrote:
I switched from a Simaudio Mind 180 to the SOtM SMS-200, and it was a significant performance improvement.


Hi,
Could you be more specific on the improvement? I have a Mind 180, and I'm curious as to what I could be gaining by using a SOtM SMS-200.
Also, you mentioned a dac with a good USB input. What do you use?

Many thanks,

Patrick


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PatT wrote:
electrafixion wrote:
I switched from a Simaudio Mind 180 to the SOtM SMS-200, and it was a significant performance improvement.


Hi,
Could you be more specific on the improvement? I have a Mind 180, and I'm curious as to what I could be gaining by using a SOtM SMS-200.
Also, you mentioned a dac with a good USB input. What do you use?

Many thanks,

Patrick

Basically everything improved, the sound is bigger, fuller, and sounds less digital and more natural and analog like. It was a better improvement than I would typically expect from a DAC upgrade. That change was so impressive I've since gone to SOTM's newer SMS-200Ultra, SPS-500 power supply, and TX-USBultra signal re-generator. An added plus is the versatility of the SOTM products as I can use DNLA, UPnP, and best of all Roon for file rendering / control software.

The only downside compared to the Simaudio Mind 180 is that these newer generation streamers (or renderers or network end points, depending on the term you prefer) have only USB out, instead of traditional COAX / AES / Toslink digital outputs. To get around the USB limitation I use a Singxer SU-1 which seems to to a better job than the onboard USB inputs on most DACs.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:48 am 
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Thanks for the detailed information.

I know about USB only, that is why I was asking.

Cheers.


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