Canuck Audio Mart Hifi and Audio ForumCanuck Audio Mart Hifi and Audio Forum
It is currently Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:51 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:37 am
Posts: 966
Location: East Toronto, ON, CA
I have a very very basic analog set up, and Akai Belt drive turntable Stanton 680 cartridge and Nerve audio phono preamp.

I would like to upgrade, but not sure where to start, up grade pre or the turntable?

My budget is about $1200.00 and I would prefer something pre-owned.

What would you recommend I get first? Do keep in mind, I prefer MM cartridges and would prefer belt drive, something which is not finicky as far as the turntable is concern.

Please help, where to start?

Cheers

Kal


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:41 am
Posts: 3799
Location: Ingersoll, ON, CA
I'd start with a Rega turntable and cart. Nothing is simpler and fuss free. There are quite a few used choices. Add a Graham Slee MM phono pre amp and you can be out for well under a grand.
No shortage of choices either.
I've always been impressed with their "dynamic' sound.
Happy hunting.

_________________
He who is like the wind blowing from your pants.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:54 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:08 am
Posts: 953
Location: burlington, ON, CA
Would an older Bryston Preamp with Phono Pre be too expensive? Too rare?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:02 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:16 am
Posts: 705
Location: Surrey, BC, CA
I would look at something like this
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... cartridge/
Then update the phono pre later


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:33 am 
Online

Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:31 pm
Posts: 922
Location: Victoria, BC, CA
speedy1 wrote:
Would an older Bryston Preamp with Phono Pre be too expensive? Too rare?


A friend of mine has a .5b preamp, and it's really very good. The on board phono stage is excellent too. You'd have to spend up around $1,000 on a phono stage alone, maybe more, to outperform the phono stage. These preamps can be had for $350-400 (although getting quite old, and may require a servicing).


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:07 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:24 pm
Posts: 882
Location: pincourt, QC, CA
naimkid, $1200. will get you a good used turntable. Earlier this week I visited an audio store on St. Hubert street in Montreal and they were selling a used Linn LP 12 with a Basic arm and a new Nagoka cart for $1200. While I've never owned a Linn I would assume it would be better than a new Rega, Project, etc. that uses MDF and plastic parts as opposed to real wood and metal.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:02 am
Posts: 1010
Location: Kingston, ON, CA
Here's a Roksan Radius 5 with a Nima tonearm and Corus Black cartridge for $1,295:
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649350245-roksan-radius-5-turntable-package-with-nima-tone-arm-and-chorus-black-cartridge-over-60-off-no-tax/

There are a lot of upgrade options available to you down the road (if you so choose).

I agree with the previous comment to upgrade your preamp later.

_________________
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." (Aristotle, 384-322 BCE)


Last edited by NordicNorm on Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:14 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:37 am
Posts: 966
Location: East Toronto, ON, CA
Thank you all very much for your replies, keep them coming, I like the idea of an older preamp with a built in phono stage.

I really wish there were a few phono preamps, from the eighties to early nineties, well there are but most of the time, they are going for pretty close to the price when they were new.

As for the turntable, I was thinking about Sota TT, unless if you say it would be difficult for me to set up.

mac10, $1200.00 for a LP12 with a new Nagaoka cartridge does sound like a fantastic deal.

The question for me is which one is difficult to set up and maintain, LP12 or a Sota, I really like the appearance of Sota Sapphire.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:34 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:56 pm
Posts: 1215
Location: Milton, ON, CA
Lp12's are known to be a bit finicky to set up and maintain proper set up. I would go with the soda between the two of those. I'm not a huge Rega fan so wouldn't bother with the planar three. Is your Akia a decent table? Some of those older Japanese tables were OK to quite good. And your cartridge is decent for an older MM so if the table is OK I would go for the pre-firsT. I would try to get a tube MM Pre.
IMHO

Something like this would be just what the doctor ordered if you can talk him down slightly. This could probably serve you well for the rest of your life. If you ever go to MC cartridges then you can just add a good SUT.
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... see-photo/

Or this would be quite good
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... tic-build/

Or these are supposed to be good
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... -upgraded/

Or if you eat Kraft dinner for two months, this is a Final statement piece
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... n-trumpet/


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:53 am 
Offline
Premium User

Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:47 pm
Posts: 1219
Location: Oakville, ON, CA
How about this? Looks like it has a built-in phono pre-amp to boot

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... ust-cover/


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:05 am
Posts: 262
Location: Peachland, BC, CA
thumbs up for the Roksan table. Great tonearm. Newer cartridge. Upgrade the phono pre later. Look for a used moon LP 5.3


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:27 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:46 pm
Posts: 289
Location: Markham, ON, CA
I bought (here on CAM) a P3, with the platter and capstan upgrade, new belt, Dynavector 10X5 and perfect dust cover, and had enough left over to buy a Project Tube SE2 preamp on what you told us you have to spend; this is a smoking good setup and have been smiling for the last 6 months I have owned it. Be patient, take your time and let the deals come to you. You should be able to get a good older Rega P3 or better with a good arm (mine was a re-wired RB-250) in and around the $700 mark. Heck for that, you could have bought the Thorens 150 Mk2 I picked up a couple of weeks ago.

I like the Rega for a couple of reasons; good, solid performance. Easy to upgrade as there are a few really good aftermarket suppliers out there (like Michael Lim) so you have an upgrade path. The RB-250 is probably the best arm out there for the money; it really benefits from re-wiring which absolutely changes the arm to a great one from a good arm, and they are dead easy to set up and stay that way! Oh ya, the pricing is super as well. Most importantly, they have a good solid sound.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:41 am
Posts: 7598
Location: Burlington, ON, CA
kvn63 wrote:
I would look at something like this
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... cartridge/
Then update the phono pre later


That's really nice and you cant go wrong with a P3 either(or whichever used rega you can squeeze into your budget up from there), the rega's still hold their value well.

SOTA TT over a Linn is a super-easy set up (it is balanced with lead shot in a reservoir). If you buy a SOTA however and it's being shipped it's imperative the shipper secures the transit bolts and has the shipping crate from SOTA, and that the proper amount of lead weight is supplied if you are going with your own arm. SOTA is still alive and well and can supply you with the arm board drilled to fit any arm. I've been running a 25 year old Sapphire upgraded with the vacuum, flywheel, with a Jelco arm for near a decade now, and it's a pretty great sounding table.

_________________
"I'm not Inspector Gadget!"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:18 am
Posts: 4399
Location: Surrey , BC, CA
I would go for that Roksan......second choice the Project....both excellent deals.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Need upgrade Advice
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:05 pm 
Offline
Premium User
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 18449
Location: Montreal, QC, CA
Tangram wrote:
How about this? Looks like it has a built-in phono pre-amp to boot

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... ust-cover/


Where does it say it has a built-in phono preamp? Even ProJect does not offer that from the factory on this model and exactly where could they fit one??


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group