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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:04 am 
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This is what I recommend for the shelves: laminate a piece of .75" mdf and and piece of .75" inch baltic birch with hardwood veneer together - baltic birch on top. Use lots of wood glue and clamp. The different densities will aid in resonance control. you can spray the bottom of the shelf black before assembly if it will be seen. If you don't think the resonance control is necessary, just use 2 pieces of the birch ply. Cap the outside of the shelves all around with .75 inch solid hardwood to match the veneer. Metre the corners.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:45 pm 
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I have started the stand.
I'm building it at a friends house, he has a nice wood shop.
There were some great ideas shared by the poster's to the thread. Taking what I read in this post and through some internet research I came up with how I was going to build the stand. I think of this as more of a proto type. I kept the design simple and did not go over board with the building materials.
It will be a 3 shelve stand, 24"x48"shelves, 1" mdf
1" all thread (ready rod) for the legs. 6 legs, one on each corner, 2 in the centre.
I'm going to line each shelve with 1/4" cork and contact cement it to the shelf
finish the edges with some kind of hardwood
There will be rod couplings on the underside of the bottom shelf. I will thread another rod into the coupling and level the stand from there.
I have cut the shelves, but thats it. I will try and take pics as it moves along and hopefully
have a complete stand by the end of the summer!
Oh yea, the cost will be about $500, probably less.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:56 pm 
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Sitting on concrete think machine mounts.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:34 am 
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sasquatch wrote:
Sitting on concrete think machine mounts.

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Thanks Gary, I'm going to investigate.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:07 am 
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It's getting closer.
We (my friend with the shop) have completed one of the three shelves. it still needs to be painted.
It's 1" mdf, 1/4 layer of cork on top contact cemented to the mdf and trimmed on all 4 sides with 3/4" red oak that was biscuit joined and glued.
Whew, I can't believe the man hours and discussion/planning/plotting that had gone into making the shelves! It won't be long now, but I must say the journey has been fantastic.
I will post a pic of the finished product. As proud as I am of the shelf, pics don't really portray the effort.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:36 am 
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scarbpaul12 wrote:
As proud as I am of the shelf, pics don't really portray the effort.
They never do.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:12 am 
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Drum roll please! The equipment stand is complete.
6 months since I first posted, obviously I'm a slow builder.
I had a buddy help me and we used his wood shop. The shelves consisted of 1" mdf, 1/4" cork, contact cemented on top of the mdf and and trimmed in 3/4" oak. The oak trimmed was glued, biscuit joined.
I used a dark stain on the oak and sealed it with a varnish. It really brought out the natural grain.
The legs are 1" all thread rod.
My system is in the basement, the room has a sub floor. I peeled back the carpet and used a holesaw to make holes in the sub floor where the legs were to go, then put the carpet back. (I rented a kicker and stretched it back, worked great). I then cut slits in the carpet for the legs.
I used rod couplings on the underside of the bottom shelf which allowed me to add short pieces of rod (which I ground to a point) and I could turn them in or out to level the stand and used a backing nut to lock them in. The stand is resting on the concrete floor under the sub floor.
It took about 6 hours to assemble, level and place the components. The upper shelves house my two channel system and the bottom shelf has mainly stuff for the tv.
This thing is heavy and rock solid, you could dance on it.
I figure I spent about $600 on materials and 40 or so hours in labour.
Interesting to note, I has had a positive sonic impact. The bass has more punch and definition. and everything in the sound stage just seems more spacial and nicely arranged... or I am imagining all of this.
Incredibly satisfying. The idea sharing and figuring out how we were going to build and assemble the shelves was a great experience. (there was beer involved and many high fives).
I'm having my doubts, let me know if you can access the pics

-- 06 Jan 2018 16:18 --

Lets try this
another drum roll


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:46 am 
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Nicely done.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:00 am 
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scarbpaul12 wrote:
As stated.
Basic plan, wooden shelving being supported by all thread rod
I have access to a wood shop and a basic machine shop.
Some of the questions I have been mulling over:
What type of wood should I use for the shelving? I have been reading alot of stuff on maple. Yet I came across an article that said the pressboard/veneered end tables Ikea makes are the best shelving surface.
Equipment isolation, is that achievable through the use of material the shelving is made of? Would some type of isolation material between the rods and the shelves be effective?
I plan on having the stand on a concrete basement floor, how should the stand meet up with the floor, spiky points, isolation between the stand and the floor. rods lagged into the floor?
I'm putting this out there because, as usual there is a lot of conflicting info.
If there is a law of diminishing returns, I want to stay with in it.
Thanks, Paul

If you can stay away from wood and threaded rod that would be good. I used 3/4" builders grade MDF for shelves and 1 1/4" steel tubing for the rack material. Had the steel treated and powered coated after. Just painted the MDF and it looks great...almost zero vibration from this home made rack. But I also had access to welding materials and a full manufacturers shop at my disposal.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:55 am 
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nedrudrelyt wrote:
scarbpaul12 wrote:
As stated.
Basic plan, wooden shelving being supported by all thread rod
I have access to a wood shop and a basic machine shop.
Some of the questions I have been mulling over:
What type of wood should I use for the shelving? I have been reading alot of stuff on maple. Yet I came across an article that said the pressboard/veneered end tables Ikea makes are the best shelving surface.
Equipment isolation, is that achievable through the use of material the shelving is made of? Would some type of isolation material between the rods and the shelves be effective?
I plan on having the stand on a concrete basement floor, how should the stand meet up with the floor, spiky points, isolation between the stand and the floor. rods lagged into the floor?
I'm putting this out there because, as usual there is a lot of conflicting info.
If there is a law of diminishing returns, I want to stay with in it.
Thanks, Paul

If you can stay away from wood and threaded rod that would be good. I used 3/4" builders grade MDF for shelves and 1 1/4" steel tubing for the rack material. Had the steel treated and powered coated after. Just painted the MDF and it looks great...almost zero vibration from this home made rack. But I also had access to welding materials and a full manufacturers shop at my disposal.

Do you have any pictures?
I would like to see what you did.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:50 am 
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scarbpaul12 wrote:
nedrudrelyt wrote:
scarbpaul12 wrote:
As stated.
Basic plan, wooden shelving being supported by all thread rod
I have access to a wood shop and a basic machine shop.
Some of the questions I have been mulling over:
What type of wood should I use for the shelving? I have been reading alot of stuff on maple. Yet I came across an article that said the pressboard/veneered end tables Ikea makes are the best shelving surface.
Equipment isolation, is that achievable through the use of material the shelving is made of? Would some type of isolation material between the rods and the shelves be effective?
I plan on having the stand on a concrete basement floor, how should the stand meet up with the floor, spiky points, isolation between the stand and the floor. rods lagged into the floor?
I'm putting this out there because, as usual there is a lot of conflicting info.
If there is a law of diminishing returns, I want to stay with in it.
Thanks, Paul

If you can stay away from wood and threaded rod that would be good. I used 3/4" builders grade MDF for shelves and 1 1/4" steel tubing for the rack material. Had the steel treated and powered coated after. Just painted the MDF and it looks great...almost zero vibration from this home made rack. But I also had access to welding materials and a full manufacturers shop at my disposal.

Do you have any pictures?
I would like to see what you did.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:49 pm 
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Looks nice. I guess I should have stuck with a basic design.


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scarbpaul12 wrote:
Looks nice. I guess I should have stuck with a basic design.

Yours looks good though. Used pretty thick rod and shelves. Is it pretty stable?


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nedrudrelyt wrote:
scarbpaul12 wrote:
Looks nice. I guess I should have stuck with a basic design.

Yours looks good though. Used pretty thick rod and shelves. Is it pretty stable?

Thats just it. I designed it so the legs are adjustable and have it directly on the concrete floor.
It is rock solid. also, by combining different materials to make the shelf, and gluing them all together there is going to be very little vibration transmission as it is going to be tough for the thing to resonate.
I had mentioned there is a noticeable improvement in sound, and it's not subtle.
The best way to look at it is it's 110% improved over my old stand, I love how it looks and it holds all my stuff.
The cable rats nest is another story and a project for another day. :)


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scarbpaul12 wrote:
Lets try this
another drum roll

Looks very good. I like the beefy construction. The cork is another nice touch.

Well done!

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