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 Post subject: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:09 am 
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Just wanted to post about a negative experience I recently had with CAM member DeltaV. He posts his products for sale both on CAM, Used Ottawa classifieds, and also on Kijiji. The item I paid for was listed both on CAM and Kijiji. He is quite the salesman, with really good pics and descriptions of his products. The problem is that I received the wrong item, and the person who received the vintage amp I ordered is not returning it as its more valuable than the item I received. DeltaV basically has offered no help. The problem is that I paid him for the amp via interac direct deposit (into his wife's bank account) He doesn't accept PayPal. My own stupid fault, as I should have known just sending money to a complete stranger if foolish. He is not responding to my emails, so I am basically screwed. I'm out $150 and am stuck with a vintage cassette deck that sells on eBay for around $50. So please anyone who reads this, do not send money via interac e-transfer, you have no protection should something go wrong, and purchase from DeltaV at your own risk as he is not a trustworthy seller.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:22 am 
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Have you contacted Administration at CAM before posting? They should be involved as soon as there is a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:26 am 
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How do you know that the "other person" will not return "your" amp?


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:28 am 
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If you received goods other than what you paid for, the seller does nothing to correct the problem, and you can prove it, I would think you had a case for the police.

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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:31 am 
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If the seller is using CAM to advertise his gear, please contact Admin.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:38 am 
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Unfortunately for me I contacted the seller through kijij, and not CAM. I just want people to know what happened, if I can save anyone else the hassle I have gone through. The person who supposedly received the amp I ordered would have gotten it around xmas, and has apparently not responded to deltaV's emails. So I think its safe to say that I will never see that amp.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:59 am 
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The seller has a 61 positive feedback rating here on CAM and multiple items for sale.

I am surprised by his lack of response to his mistake.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:09 pm 
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EMT and kijiji should never go together

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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:15 pm 
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Yes I knew of his positive feedback, which is why I wired the money to him, and that's what makes this so frustrating. The last email I received from him he said "I have done all I can, but I have to stress that I cannot be out of both my items and my money". I told him I would return the wrong item but now he has stopped communicating. I believe he is telling the truth that a mistake was made, but he is not owning up to the fact that he made the mistake, and that it is on him to take responsibility. Apparently he was away when both the items were shipped, he entrusted this duty to a family member. And yes, EMT and kijiji should never go together, my stupid fault there. Really if anything is going to be shipped PayPal is the only method that protects the buyer.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:23 pm 
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I couldn't hurt to contact Admin for advice.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:35 pm 
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this to me is a case for the police if he has not attempted to fix this issue.

seems like it would be a fraud case, as he took your money and did not ship what was paid for.

it is also possible that the police would say you must take him to small claims court.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:38 pm 
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antonius wrote:
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The last email I received from him he said "I have done all I can, but I have to stress that I cannot be out of both my items and my money".

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Huh! And you should be out because of his mistake?


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:03 pm 
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just a word to those suggesting the OP should contact the police about this matter.
the police would have little to no interest in such a complaint.
the value involved is less than the cost of their time to make a phone call.
although i don't disagree that the alleged fraud is wrong,
the reality is that the police would simply tell you
- buyer beware
- talk to your insurance (either credit card/bank/homeowners

there is a lot of misguided belief that the police are going to come running to rescue folk who've been taken advantage of.
that is simply not the case.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:15 pm 
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Yes I have to agree it would be a waste of effort. I decided to send off one last email and see if anything comes of it. My main motivation for posting here is just to help bring attention to this kind of thing. I will stress it again do not pay via interac deposit, huge mistake on my part. Sellers can't just expect the buyer to blindly hand over money with no sort of insurance for the buyer.


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 Post subject: Re: CAM seller DeltaV
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:20 pm 
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shad40 wrote:
just a word to those suggesting the OP should contact the police about this matter.
the police would have little to no interest in such a complaint.
the value involved is less than the cost of their time to make a phone call.
although i don't disagree that the alleged fraud is wrong,
the reality is that the police would simply tell you
- buyer beware
- talk to your insurance (either credit card/bank/homeowners

there is a lot of misguided belief that the police are going to come running to rescue folk who've been taken advantage of.
that is simply not the case.

he didn't use a credit card. homeowner's insurance would have a $500 deductible likely. because of the amount being so petty, the police would likely consider it a time waster or call it a 'civil matter', but nothing ventured nothing gained, worth a try, getting a call from the police to inquire what's up might turn his head. If you wanted to make the guy's life a little miserable you could file in small claims court, but it's a bit of work. you might suggest to him that you are prepared to contact police and take him to small claims court, without making it appear an overt extortion.
did he advertise he here at the same time frame?

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