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 Post subject: Re: getting ripped
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:03 am 
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smally21 wrote:
If a buyer comes to audition an item..has all the time in the world to test it and inspect it thoroughly..and satisfies themselves to the point that they are willing to shell out their dough for it..then that's the end of it.

The suggestion after the fact that there was a defect at that time is defeated by the obvious fact that they would not have purchased the item had it been defective!! There is absolutely no point in letting someone demo an item if later they can claim it doesn't function. The process protects the buyer as well as the seller.

I am in no way a buyer beware guy...that BS statement was invented by unscrupulous vendors who wanted to sleep at night by blaming the seller for getting ripped off..however in this case the buyer was afforded every opportunity to satisfy themselves prior to purchase.

However, in a meet or a shipping circumstance this does not apply...at that point seller honesty and feedback is tantamount..and some responsibility must be taken if there is a defect..as the buyer was not afforded the same opportunity.

One piece of advice I give buyers who asks 57 questions regarding my integrity..If you aren't comfortable shopping online..DON'T. Asking a reputable seller repeatedly if the item is stolen, knock-off or non functional isn't due diligence..its simply insulting.

If you ask an honest guy if his item is legit he will say yes.
If you ask a dishonest guy if his item is legit he will say yes.

As the answer is the same..the question is useless.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:48 am 
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good sound wrote:
smally21 wrote:
If a buyer comes to audition an item..has all the time in the world to test it and inspect it thoroughly..and satisfies themselves to the point that they are willing to shell out their dough for it..then that's the end of it.

The suggestion after the fact that there was a defect at that time is defeated by the obvious fact that they would not have purchased the item had it been defective!! There is absolutely no point in letting someone demo an item if later they can claim it doesn't function. The process protects the buyer as well as the seller.

I am in no way a buyer beware guy...that BS statement was invented by unscrupulous vendors who wanted to sleep at night by blaming the seller for getting ripped off..however in this case the buyer was afforded every opportunity to satisfy themselves prior to purchase.

However, in a meet or a shipping circumstance this does not apply...at that point seller honesty and feedback is tantamount..and some responsibility must be taken if there is a defect..as the buyer was not afforded the same opportunity.

One piece of advice I give buyers who asks 57 questions regarding my integrity..If you aren't comfortable shopping online..DON'T. Asking a reputable seller repeatedly if the item is stolen, knock-off or non functional isn't due diligence..its simply insulting.

If you ask an honest guy if his item is legit he will say yes.
If you ask a dishonest guy if his item is legit he will say yes.

As the answer is the same..the question is useless.


Excellent post.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:47 am 
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fazman wrote:
good sound wrote:
smally21 wrote:
If a buyer comes to audition an item..has all the time in the world to test it and inspect it thoroughly..and satisfies themselves to the point that they are willing to shell out their dough for it..then that's the end of it.

The suggestion after the fact that there was a defect at that time is defeated by the obvious fact that they would not have purchased the item had it been defective!! There is absolutely no point in letting someone demo an item if later they can claim it doesn't function. The process protects the buyer as well as the seller.

I am in no way a buyer beware guy...that BS statement was invented by unscrupulous vendors who wanted to sleep at night by blaming the seller for getting ripped off..however in this case the buyer was afforded every opportunity to satisfy themselves prior to purchase.

However, in a meet or a shipping circumstance this does not apply...at that point seller honesty and feedback is tantamount..and some responsibility must be taken if there is a defect..as the buyer was not afforded the same opportunity.

One piece of advice I give buyers who asks 57 questions regarding my integrity..If you aren't comfortable shopping online..DON'T. Asking a reputable seller repeatedly if the item is stolen, knock-off or non functional isn't due diligence..its simply insulting.

If you ask an honest guy if his item is legit he will say yes.
If you ask a dishonest guy if his item is legit he will say yes.

As the answer is the same..the question is useless.


Excellent post.



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Buyer auditions - You might spend some extra time, but it reduces problems in the long run.

Online Purchasing/Selling - I just assume that a certain number of purchases are going to be sub-optimal and live with it. You have to look at the big picture; and that is higher revenue / lower cost overall.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:00 am 
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Toby wrote:
@Fenderbender, if you want CAM to go any further into this, please PM me with the specific details of how you tried to work with your buyer. If you have it, please include email correspondence between the two of you.

Fenderbender wrote:
I took your advice and tried to work with him but he posted negative and defamatory feedback today. I have carefully laid out my side of the story. Sadly, my perfect feedback now has a blemish, i'll leave it up to those that read it as to who is telling the truth... don't like that red square beside my name though...



IMO, I think using the term 'this guy ----- sucks' in the formality of a feedback should be sufficient to remove it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:47 pm 
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After the buyer asked for $100. dollars I emailed him back to say that I thought my offer was generous and that is where things stand 10 days later. I did invite him over here to this forum to state his side of the situation, as in disputes there are always 2 different takes. I have not heard from him in these 10 days so I guess he's either found out what the problem on his end is, he was adamant that it wasn't his cables or power and didn't seem interested in looking for possible ground faults or other cable issues, he was equally adamant that he wanted his money back, that same night. I'm on the road and when I get back i'll assemble the emails (we never talked on the phone) and submit them to the mods to see if my red/black mark can be expunged. Thanks all, Peter


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