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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:02 pm 
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Recently had to take in my 2012 Tuscon for body repair (thanks to a hit and run), so was given a 2014 Dodge Dart as a loaner.

Wow, I thought my Tucson had a terrible stereo. It seems that most new vehicles have bass, mid, and treble controls. I had to turn the bass and mid as far negative as possible, and the bass still distorted at average volume. Adjusting the treble seemed to have no impact whatsoever, the upper range was just dull and lifeless.... heck, bright and shrill would have actually been an improvement!

The Tucson is no great shakes either, but after cranking down the bass, mid and treble, it is at least balanced, though still poor quality.

And yet my 2004 Civic still sounds damn impressive for a factory stereo. I have left all controls set to 0 since day one, it is incredibly smooth and balanced, zero distortion, zero harshness, and just enough thumping bass to know it is there with no overexagerated bass hump.

Not sure I have a point, but wow, I can't recall a stereo sounding as pitiful as the one in this 2014 Dodge Dart.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:46 pm 
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Reminds me of the Blose system in my '03 Pathfinder. When listening to FM, I've always had the bass setting at -1 and when I'm cranking it, I'll generally reduce it further to -2.

But CD's sound pretty good with the bass & treble set at 0. It's acceptable anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:57 pm 
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most now are horrible.
zero thought goes into actual sound quality.

plus they make it damn near impossible to swap out the stock crap for better aftermarket stuff.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:05 pm 
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Missing the point...most want you to pay for the upgraded system which is built into a premium package full of useless crap. And things get even worse as you go up the ladder, fork out $75k for a Porsche Cayman and bluetooth/ Aux/USB input is optional. Base sound system in most Bimmers are crap too.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:36 pm 
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Missing the point...most want you to pay for the upgraded system which is built into a premium package full of useless crap. And things get even worse as you go up the ladder, fork out $75k for a Porsche Cayman and bluetooth/ Aux/USB input is optional. Base sound system in most Bimmers are crap too.


Exactly! You got the most base stereo system available, and you're probably compare it to some 'upgrade' system. Chrysler does offer good stereo for more $, as well as any car manufacturer. My Subaru stereo is atrocious, but for more $ I could have gotten a nice Harman Kardon system. My old Chrysler 300m top of the line had a really good Infinity system with a stand-alone amplifier, optional subwoofer, 12 speakers, etc.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:48 pm 
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I was lucky with my 1968 Pontiac Parisienne ... someone went all out and ordered the optional rear speaker! That option included the dash mounted slider to fade between front and rear. Of course, this is a mono system we're talking about.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:53 pm 
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Tom_r wrote:
I was lucky with my 1968 Pontiac Parisienne ... someone went all out and ordered the optional rear speaker! That option included the dash mounted slider to fade between front and rear. Of course, this is a mono system we're talking about.


lots of room in the trunk to 'fix things up'... :lol:

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TAS did a review of the Meridian sound system in the new Range Rover. It's supposed to rival a good home system. And it's only a $36,000 option


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I agree that no one who actually cares about music in the car keeps a stock stereo. Even if it's not something that one likes to do themselves, the professional installers leave a finished product that is at least as good cosmetically as stock, and that sound wonderful. It's the first thing I do when I buy a vehicle.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:17 pm 
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acuratl wrote:
TAS did a review of the Meridian sound system in the new Range Rover. It's supposed to rival a good home system. And it's only a $36,000 option


And I'd wager that the Meridian will easily outlast the Range Rover. Or at the very least require a lot less maintenance. 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:42 pm 
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plus.. as with car makers and box store ht, cheap cheap cheap means more $$ in pocket.

sad though that we as consumers are the ones to blame actually..we all cried for cheaper products.

now were stuck with the choice we made......damn hind sight.

as you see in my avatar..i ride a harley...rims are harley upgrades....guess where they are made...NOT u.s.a


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:18 pm 
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plus.. as with car makers and box store ht, cheap cheap cheap means more $$ in pocket.

sad though that we as consumers are the ones to blame actually..we all cried for cheaper products.

now were stuck with the choice we made......damn hind sight.

as you see in my avatar..i ride a harley...rims are harley upgrades....guess where they are made...NOT u.s.a


I actually disagree on this. When I was driving a lot, I wanted (and had) a really good car system. Now that I drive a lot less, I care much less about sound, but more about actual car. I always cared engine, handling, suspension, etc, way more than the audio system, but now I care about car audio system even less (driving less than 10k a year). IMHO a car has to do well what it's supposed to do well - drive - i.e. road handling, power response, steering, etc. Audio system would be just a bonus.

... and oh yeah, I ride a CBR!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:54 pm 
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Tom_r wrote:
I was lucky with my 1968 Pontiac Parisienne ... someone went all out and ordered the optional rear speaker! That option included the dash mounted slider to fade between front and rear. Of course, this is a mono system we're talking about.


Great car! :shock: I grew up riding in my Dad's 66 Parisienne, loved that car. My 1998 Ford Escort wagon grocery getter has a radio only, but a factory optional power amp of all things under the passenger seat. It actually sounds very good believe it or not, and I often wished my home audio system had a similar tone to it. It does now, but I had to go high quality 70's vintage to get it.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:13 am 
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hifijones wrote:
Reminds me of the Blose system in my '03 Pathfinder. When listening to FM, I've always had the bass setting at -1 and when I'm cranking it, I'll generally reduce it further to -2.

But CD's sound pretty good with the bass & treble set at 0. It's acceptable anyway.


Wait until a stabilizer bar goes and your CD player can't play without skipping... Cassettes it is! I found the Bose car systems aren't that bad to be honest. Plus they're there for their target market not us audiophiles. My moms Toyota had Nakamichi in it and I liked her system better tho. Is it the car maker or the system maker that we give credit to? Im not sure, as acoustic environments contribute to sound. All that glass and the plastic of newer vehicles... sounds like acoustic hell, no?

Gotta love the Pumpfinder. I love mine.... Except when you gotta put gas in it :lol:

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I recently pulled my 2004 Infiniti G35 out of its winter slumber, with Red Barchetta going on in my head....shreaking tires...sorry going off on a tangent here!!!

It has a Bose premium package and sounds really great BUT the package included a tape deck!!! I still love cassettes. I know it's old technology but "if it ain't broke..."


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