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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:54 am 
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Hello...

First off, I am clueless about car audio.

I am looking at getting a second car. Not sure what it will be except it will be a sports car of some sort & used for sure.

Which cars are known to have a good "acoustical space"? What kind of budget for a really decent aftermarket system including installation? I would be mostly listening to classical while on the road, sometimes large scale orchestral for which I don't have the patience to listen to at home, but it would be a great listen on a long drive, combined with the scenery...

Is there an aftermarket car audio system supporting multichannel SACD?

Also, which stock audio systems are highly rated?

Used vehicle budget is 15k-30k

Anyways, I will be thankful for any pointers you can give me.


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Look for a Volkswagen or Volvo with a Dynaudio system factory installed. Supposed to be very good.
I considered buying one of these makes of vehicle because they had the option of a Dynaudio system but decided on another truck instead. Someday...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:32 am 
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In my experience i have found that if the car is quieter the sound is better.

The ultimate in a quiet car would then be a luxury sedan.

With a sports car, you would need a loud stereo to compete with the engine noise and other noise pollution akin to driving a performance car. A real sports car with its low profile tire will also transmit more road noise as well.

maybe a luxury sport tourer would be more appropriate.

No idea about SACD.

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Any car can sound great - even convertibles.
Expect to invest at least $1k or more depending on your goals.
Start shopping for reputable shops that specialize in SQ and upmarket brands.
Sound damping is a MUST before considering any component purchases.
You may want to check out the forums at http://www.canadiancaraudio.com
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I can sell you mine

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1980z28car wrote:
I can sell you mine

Roof opens 8)


Nothing like storing the T-Tops in their dedicated space in the trunk... ;)

I used to have the exact same car, it had a tape deck, 4 speakers and analogue EQ... though back then I enjoyed the engine rumble more than the tapes.


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Trev wrote:
The ultimate in a quiet car would then be a luxury sedan.
Agreed. The Lincolns are pretty quiet...no road or engine noise, a must if anyone is entertaining the thought of listening to classical music on the road.

Sportscars are all about the driving experience, not the music. The Enzo doesn't even come with a radio.

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dyno at 426 hp at 6800rpm

350 turbo 3000 stall

2800 lbs

411 gears

8 mpg 94 octane

lots of rumble purchase car in 1983


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:29 am 
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1980z28car wrote:
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dyno at 426 hp at 6800rpm

350 turbo 3000 stall

2800 lbs

411 gears

8 mpg 94 octane

lots of rumble purchase car in 1983


Mine had the stock Z28 engine, still healthy amounts of rumble & lots of fun. It wasn't too fast (neither were the girls who rode in it back then), it just sounded fast. I think it still did better than 8mpg.

You don't say anything about the audio system?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:35 am 
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Stereo is a am/fm/deck cd

4 6x9 speakers

you can not hear anything only engine

so I have not turn it on in years


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with that kind of coin you have a lot of used car options.

if audio is really important then sports sedan or gt is the way to go.

a bmw 540i (esp e46) is a killer car. beautiful handling and also ride, which is hard to do. great steering, very quick (o-100 in less than 6 seconds.) gorgeous sounding motor but you can still hear the audio when moderate with your right foot.

get an early 2000 one (easily less than 10k) and do the suspension bushings. its one of the great cars of all time.

otherwise lexus sc400s can be had for cheap, frankly so can early porsche 928s. go much sportier than this and youll be too awash in noise to really hear the music

***also unless you plan to really push, a fast sports car is both wasted on the street and uncomfortable. if you do plan to push it will only last until you lose your license or possibly hurt yourself. Get the bimmer. and take me for a ride!

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with that kind of coin you have a lot of used car options.

if audio is really important and sports sedan or gt is the way to go.

a bmw 540i (esp e46) is a killer car. beautiful handling and also ride, which is hard to do. great steering, very quick (o-100 in less than 6 seconds.) gorgeous sounding motor but you can still hear the audio when moderate with your right foot.

get an early 2000 one (easily less than 10k) and do the suspension bushings. its one of the great cars of all time.

otherwise lexus sc400s can be had for cheap, frankly so can early porsche 928s. go much sportier than this and youll be too awash in noise to really hear the music


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phowell1 wrote:
with that kind of coin you have a lot of used car options.

if audio is really important then sports sedan or gt is the way to go.

a bmw 540i (esp e46) is a killer car. beautiful handling and also ride, which is hard to do. great steering, very quick (o-100 in less than 6 seconds.) gorgeous sounding motor but you can still hear the audio when moderate with your right foot.

get an early 2000 one (easily less than 10k) and do the suspension bushings. its one of the great cars of all time.

otherwise lexus sc400s can be had for cheap, frankly so can early porsche 928s. go much sportier than this and youll be too awash in noise to really hear the music

***also unless you plan to really push, a fast sports car is both wasted on the street and uncomfortable. if you do plan to push it will only last until you lose your license or possibly hurt yourself. Get the bimmer. and take me for a ride!



Hey, thanks for the advice... some really great choices there.

Looking at Auto Trader, it's amazing how many good vehicles there are for even under $10k... like Audi S4 Quattro, TT etc.
No such luck with Cadillac XLR Coupe...

I am not planning to "really push" on the road, I am far from a teenager (unfortunately) plus I fulfill my need for speed flying turbocharged airplanes... (here's some trivia, the radio stack can pick up AM radio stations, not that I ever listen to them in the air).


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wow thats so cool! do you do aerobatics as well? (was curious about that once but never pursued it)

yeah its amazing what you can get thanks to depreciation. money pits one and all, but cars always are so if youre gonna do it you might as well have some fun.

also, (though noisier, and so maybe less well suited here..) bmw m3 of several generations are available, and all kinds of porsches, vettes, audis as you say, so much. there was a time when rarer lamborghinis went for not too much, and that may still be the case. if you ditch the audio part, i saw a detomaso pantera in lovely shape a bit ago for 25k. what a car!

i think for a street car though, the 540i i mentioned is really perfect in all ways except gas mileage, which is brutal. but that would be my pick

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wow thats so cool! do you do aerobatics as well? (was curious about that once but never pursued it)

yeah its amazing what you can get thanks to depreciation. money pits one and all, but cars always are so if youre gonna do it you might as well have some fun.

also, (though noisier, and so maybe less well suited here..) bmw m3 of several generations are available, and all kinds of porsches, vettes, audis as you say, so much. there was a time when rarer lamborghinis went for not too much, and that may still be the case. if you ditch the audio part, i saw a detomaso pantera in lovely shape a bit ago for 25k. what a car!

i think for a street car though, the 540i i mentioned is really perfect in all ways except gas mileage, which is brutal. but that would be my pick


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Imports with no warranty

Best have lots of cash on hand

Dealers charge 100 plus per hour

Parts are not cheap

oil leaks and such can be very expensive

Domestic cars are best IMHO


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phowell1 wrote:
wow thats so cool! do you do aerobatics as well? (was curious about that once but never pursued it)



As far as aerobatics, I have only done spins in C172/152... the Piper Turbo Arrow IV is just a "grand touring" plane, no aerobatics allowed. I'd love to fly a Citabria one day, it is specifically designed for that sort of fun.


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