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 Post subject: opinion on set up
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:24 pm 
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here is my set up
Marantz av8801
outlaw 7700 power amp
studio 100 and cc570 v3
2sets of adp470v3
servo15v2
Panasonic 60st30 and Panasonic bluray
my question is I just replaced my ati amps with the outlaw amp and it has balanced in is it worth getting xlr cable and if so where can I get xlr cable without breaking the bank thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:58 pm 
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Define "breaking the bank".

To some on here that means keeping things under $100 total for all the wires while for others it means keeping it under $100 a cable (X7).

The great thing with balanced wiring is that you can usually get away with the cheapest stuff possible as the balanced nature of the wiring cancels out anything the wiring or connectors can add or remove from the signal. Even the pros use the cheapest stuff they can find from the warehouse or surplus stores.


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not looking for 10.00 cables but can buy red river cables for about 120 a pair but was hoping someone may have cables for cheap if its worth it as i9m also looking to change a few things


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:19 pm 
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You can always try Take 5.

how many and how long do you need?


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2meter x 7 channel


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More than I have to offer.

definitely try Take 5. Options on cable and connectors, and reasonable prices with excellent service. I am sure others could recommend sources as well.


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thank you


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:39 pm 
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Definitely try Take 5. I just bought parts from them and put a number of balanced cables together to tie my pre/pro and amp, as well as sub. Originally I was just going to purchase them ready made ... but I had a bunch of Neutrik plugs lying around so though why not use up the parts.

I made the main cables 20" long since my processor is on the shelf just above the amp. And a 60" XLR to the sub which gives me a bit of extra flexibility with placement.

I am quite pleased with the results.

P.S. I'm using very similar speakers to you.


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what processor l-man


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carstereoguy wrote:
not looking for 10.00 cables but can buy red river cables for about 120 a pair but was hoping someone may have cables for cheap if its worth it as i9m also looking to change a few things


My daughter manages the summer musical camps for a major university and has to buy hundreds of such cables every year to replace stolen, lost or broken cables. She used to buy high priced major brand name cables from a big music store for 3 figure price tags until I introduced her to an electronics wholesaler who sells the exact same brand and models for a mere fraction of the price . She has also tried even cheaper brands on everything from mixing consoles to radio station broadcast gear used in their radio camp, to recording consoles to commercial amps, etc.... and no one, including the sound engineers can tell the difference in sound or quality from cables costing 5X the price. Many of the big audio shops in town buy the stock cables they use in custom installs from these places.

Start with the big music shop chains like Long & Macquade or Steves Music or for even better prices, try one of the electronics wholesalers. Here are a few examples of 2 to 6 foot long cables:

https://www.stevesmusic.com/cables/micr ... hg0ubr77r0
https://www.long-mcquade.com/16295/Pro- ... 5-foot.htm
https://www.long-mcquade.com/16294/Pro- ... 2-foot.htm
https://addison-electronique.com/digifl ... pieds.html
https://addison-electronique.com/digifl ... pieds.html


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is it the same cable for microphone and audio between processor and power amp


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Here are a few options from HK on EBay. I have bought some of their RCA cables and they were well made. You can order custom lengths.

http://stores.ebay.ca/Decent-Gear-Global-Trade/XLR-Cables-Adapters-/_i.html?_fsub=283959519&_sid=594269599&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

Also, there are 1 or two pairs for sale in the Interconnect section in CAM.


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carstereoguy wrote:
is it the same cable for microphone and audio between processor and power amp


Yes, balanced cables are balanced cables, no matter what they are used for.


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Be very careful about buying Long and MCquade low end xlr cables. The pins look like solid metal but are actually hollow plastic with a wire running through the center which is then soldered to a metal jacket covering the cheap plastic pin. They snap like no tommorrow and then the pin is left inside your component, good luck getting it out.
They have a better quality xlr for more money of course and it has a better warranty but I don't know how it's constructed, so buyer beware.


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Be very careful about buying Long and MCquade low end xlr cables. The pins look like solid metal but are actually hollow plastic with a wire running through the center which is then soldered to a metal jacket covering the cheap plastic pin. They snap like no tommorrow and then the pin is left inside your component, good luck getting it out.
They have a better quality xlr for more money of course and it has a better warranty but I don't know how it's constructed, so buyer beware.


The affordable Digiflex cables that my daughter buys use high quality Neutrik brand NC3MXX and NC3FXX connectors, with zinc barrels and silver contacts and last for years. In fact, some of the original 50 footers she bought about 10 years ago are still in service.


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