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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 4:54 am 
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I think it'd be a tough sell to call this plagiarism. That intro beat is similar but not exactly the same either...not that I want to give all that much credit to Steely Dan, since their music never really grew on my, but yeah, it's a stretch at best, IMO.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 5:38 am 
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AVguy wrote:
Plagiarism?!? :roll:
It wasn't the whole song, just the intro notes.
Thousands have musicians have intentionally added small snippets of music from another artists' songs as a tribute/tip of the hat.
It is not "copying" them or "plagiarism".


+1 on that.
Jazz Guitarist Wes Montgomery used that as an intro for the tune Canadian Sunset on one of his recordings.
As far as I know it's only the melody you can't steal, and being as there's only 12 notes in a scale everybody's bound to borrow something from somewhere, but I think you're allowed I bar of music with it being plagiarized, actually just a quote then :-)

Many Bebop jazz tunes were based on the chords for entire tunes, they're called contrafacts, methinks, but only the melody is protected by copyright.
But I wouldn't want to be a lawyer on one of those cases!

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OBI56 wrote:
Yes, but did Steely Dan ever get sued over the plagiarism?


Apparently they have been sued, but not by Horace Silver.


http://entertainment.time.com/2013/08/2 ... ours-1974/


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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 5:55 am 
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The most famous guitar riff of all time is a jazz rip-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVrgj3A0_BY

At least they turned it into something worth listening to... :mrgreen:

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airdronian wrote:
OBI56 wrote:
Yes, but did Steely Dan ever get sued over the plagiarism?


Apparently they have been sued, but not by Horace Silver.


http://entertainment.time.com/2013/08/2 ... ours-1974/


OK, thanks for that Airdronian. I knew that they had been sued for something, but was not sure which song it was for. There have been so many musical copywrite lawsuits, both successful and unsucessful, over the years, that you kind of lose track who has sued who.


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Gordon Lightfoot's If You Could Read My Mind vs The Greatest Love of All by Masser and Creed

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yu ... ove-Of-All

AFAIK Lightfoot never sued

George Harrison was sued successfully over the 7 bars that opened My Sweet Lord?


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