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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:01 pm 
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thinking of buying cardas ics which one offers great value for the money


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:17 pm 
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The "Clear Beyond Interconnect" is what you need.
http://www.cardas.com/clear_beyond_ic.php
Do not waste your money on any of their lower lines of IC's...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:53 pm 
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I do not know if they still manufacture it, but back in the the day it was tough to beat the Golden Cross. Warm sounding, but nice, imho.

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I do not know if they still manufacture it, but back in the the day it was tough to beat the Golden Cross. Warm sounding, but nice, imho.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:51 pm 
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I recently got 2 pairs of golden reference from a fellow CAM member. Very happy with the results so far.
Great value for very good cables, seeing that I cannot afford the new version.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:25 pm 
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my vote goes to the old Hexlink 5 / 5C series.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:05 pm 
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First of all good choice on Cardas! I was never a huge fan of George's designs (a little too warm for me) but his newer offerings are much more neutral.

With that being said, this is an easy one...Iridium!!!

Working in the business I've been able to use every interconnect from Nordost, Kimber, AQ, Cardas and a handful of Siltech, Audience, Anticables and AZ in a variety of systems from mid-tier to high-end (though still a minute sample considering all the cable manufacturers and I lied...no Odin 2) and Iridium are hands down the best sub $500 of the bunch and I believe the best performance/price cable they currently offer. Call up Tri-Cell, they'll side with me;) At this price point it's more about doing the least wrong than the most right.

Going up the Cardas value ladder I hear it, Cygnus, Clear Reflection then Clear Beyond. But sound/dollar? Iridium for days! Iridium sounds so similar to Parsec I can't justify recommending Parsec over it to a customer. And yes...I make sure all cables are broken in prior to critically listening:)

Yes, this hobby is very subjective but I believe I can confidently say we are all searching for the most open sound we can achieve. All other descriptors aside, an open and expressive sound - albeit with accurate timbre and frequency response - is the #1 factor for drawing us deep into the music.

I run a CR from my phono stage because I preferred the slight bit of warmth it possessed over the Clear and also because I can't afford CB;) Still a very open and transparent sound with the CR, but the Clear was slightly...clearer. But at twice the price, not justifiable IMO. You might be wondering what I use elsewhere...Anticables 6.2's :lol: Between my TT > SUT > phono stage. Find me a better interconnect for carrying low level signal up to $1000 and I'll buy it! Only one that comes to mind is Crystal Cable Piccolo, but it's not "better", merely different.

Buy Iridium and be happy you did...unless you can spend more!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:54 am 
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I guess they all must be good from reading the replies so far. :)

It always makes me smile when someone poses a question about gear and the answers are all over the place.

Just shows how subjective the hobby can be.

My interconnects are older Cardas Quadlink, which sound fine.

Wish I could use the Clear Beyond cables, but they are way too expensive.


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I always found the Hexlink series great sounding, but slightly grainy.


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On the used market, I think Neutral Reference provides a great bang for the buck. I have also used Clear Light with very good results.

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If "Biggest Bang" means "best music quality for your budget" you will also have to consider the ICs I judged to have the very best engineering and quality control at a price which will leave money left over. Check out the links below.

https://www.flashbacksales.co.uk/

and ....

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/

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What do you personally consider to be the
‘sweet spot’ product (or products) in your
range in terms of maximum performance
per dollar ($), pound (£), or euro (€)? What
sets those products apart?


George Cardas:
Iridium Speaker & Interconnect are far and
away the best performance per dollar—what
sets these cables apart is the fact that we
have made them actual transmission lines,
matching conductor signal propagation to
dielectric velocity. We don’t go to heroics to
reduce dielectric constant with the use of air
dielectrics at this end of the product line, but
they perform and they’re affordable.

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Teo Audio wrote:
What do you personally consider to be the
‘sweet spot’ product (or products) in your
range in terms of maximum performance
per dollar ($), pound (£), or euro (€)? What
sets those products apart?


George Cardas:
Iridium Speaker & Interconnect are far and
away the best performance per dollar—what
sets these cables apart is the fact that we
have made them actual transmission lines,
matching conductor signal propagation to
dielectric velocity. We don’t go to heroics to
reduce dielectric constant with the use of air
dielectrics at this end of the product line, but
they perform and they’re affordable.


Ken, WTF is "dielectric velocity"?

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Teo Audio wrote:
What do you personally consider to be the
‘sweet spot’ product (or products) in your
range in terms of maximum performance
per dollar ($), pound (£), or euro (€)? What
sets those products apart?


George Cardas:
Iridium Speaker & Interconnect are far and
away the best performance per dollar—what
sets these cables apart is the fact that we
have made them actual transmission lines,
matching conductor signal propagation to
dielectric velocity. We don’t go to heroics to
reduce dielectric constant with the use of air
dielectrics at this end of the product line, but
they perform and they’re affordable.


Gee, if I didn't know better I would have to conclude that this was pure 'snake oil'.


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toddc2 wrote:
On the used market, I think Neutral Reference provides a great bang for the buck. I have also used Clear Light with very good results.



neutral reference +1 I love those cable

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toddc2 wrote:
On the used market, I think Neutral Reference provides a great bang for the buck. I have also used Clear Light with very good results.



neutral reference +1 I love those cable


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Teo Audio wrote:
What do you personally consider to be the
‘sweet spot’ product (or products) in your
range in terms of maximum performance
per dollar ($), pound (£), or euro (€)? What
sets those products apart?


George Cardas:
Iridium Speaker & Interconnect are far and
away the best performance per dollar—what
sets these cables apart is the fact that we
have made them actual transmission lines,
matching conductor signal propagation to
dielectric velocity. We don’t go to heroics to
reduce dielectric constant with the use of air
dielectrics at this end of the product line, but
they perform and they’re affordable.


It's a good feeling when the designer of the cables hears it the same as you :wink:


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