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How would you start or upgrade?
Beginning to End 70%  70%  [ 31 ]
End to Beginning 18%  18%  [ 8 ]
Digital to Analog 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
Analog to Digital 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:11 am 
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Bumpy wrote:
Studies have shown that cost, brand and appearance of loudspeakers are more important factors that their sonics.

I don't see why that would not be applicable to all other audio gear.


You are seemingly gravitating toward making --- what is a statistical generalization.. into being specific and all complete. That would be a crime against logic and human mental literacy.


We have been repeatedly asked to make our cables more glitzy, more shiny, more metallic. For more sales.

We have refused.. as all of those attributes, from our exploration and our purposes...are a sonic step backward.

Your point is taken but your point does not include the intelligence and mental concoction that is the average high quality audio buyer.

Your point works for claritone and Bose buyers, but it does not work for the average music fanatic who buys high grade gear for specifically increased musical connection and enjoyment. Good looks is a bonus for them. All that being said, there is a segment of audio equipment buyers who buy based on looks.

For example, the internal shot of a piece of gear that looks neat, shiny, and ordered. This 'look', is not specifically going to make the piece of gear sound good. But when a person with money has little else to go on (no technical skills), they will tend to gravitate to the pieces of gear that have good looking (ordered, symmetrical, shiny) innards and exteriors.

Fault the given human for it or not, appearance does play into purchases. The trick is to be aware of it and not let it dominate the decision. Neither does a white paper infer sonic quality. It only confers the seeming semblance of technical completeness and prowess... to someone who may or may not know better. These things tend to be especially true when the given customer base is well monied and live and breathe in a social environment that has aesthetics as an important (to the given them) component.

Well dressed mediocrity does better in sales by sometimes (ok, usually-as in almost always) a factor of ~10... than busy and haphazard looking extreme fidelity.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:25 am 
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Looks is very often an indicator of quality, even as a generalization. I buy cauliflower and broccoli based on it's appearance (smell too). Manufacturers tend not to put junk in good looking chassis (Chinese fakes aside), but I agree that looks isn't a guarantor of good sound.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:42 pm 
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Teo Audio wrote:
Fault the given human for it or not, appearance does play into purchases. The trick is to be aware of it and not let it dominate the decision.


It's not really so simple. The unconscious is not so easily dissuaded from driving your likes and dislikes. It is easy to train oneself to say NO to BOSE, whether you believe it to be warranted or just because "real" audiophiles say No to BOSE.


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bumperdoo wrote:
I'd start between the DAC and the pre-amp, then go pre-amp to amplifier.

From there, speaker wire.

Then turn back and look at your USB cable.


Solid advice.

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