Canuck Audio Mart

Well I guess I should give my thoughts on this Demagnetizing topic.I Have had it for a couple of weeks now and have tested it on 2 different systems.

Mine: Acoustat X speakers, Acoustat Direct Drive Tube Amps, STL (Space Tech Labs) QA115 REG preamp, STL QA111 Bal preamp, STL Buf 103 Tube Buffer, STL 512X Dac, STL CD 102 Transport and 3 STL Super Rectifiers, 2 of which are prototype.

Well I can now say I tried it and as my signature says, I now have an opinion!

I had bid on a few of these on ebay in the past, but was always outbid, but my stubbornness paid off and I got a nice unit at a bargain basement price.

I'll cut to the chase! It works! It definitely works.
I was quite taken back at how much this adds to my enjoyment in listening to a disc that has been treated.
It really added to the ambiance,Air, soundstage seemed more dimensional, more open. Things were smoother but not rolled off, more subtle details flowed through with ease, just sounded more real.

I do find the same as Chuck that it works on some CDs very well, but more subtle on some others, which to me says if it's in the recording, it will come through.
I won 't listen to a CD without treating it by Demagnetizing now!

I was thrilled at the results and was looking forward to trying it on a Buddies system to see how things faired there, his system tends to show subtle changes more so than mine.

Buddies system:
Ref 3a Vienna speakers, KR Audio VA 320 amp, STL QA111 Bal preamp, STL 64XT Dac, Mon Dip (anti jitter), Noname DVD player,
1 STL Super Rectifier.
All testing was first done on my system and then on my Buddies who's system shows subtle changes more so than mine, and I blame it on his KR Audio Amp (Sweeeet!!). I did not tell him what I thought about the Demagnetizing as he hates it when I do that as he does not want to be influenced. He is also a guy who doesn't like to talk when listening.

So I showed him the unit and we plugged it in, but first we listened to a track on a CD that was not treated and then we treated the Disc with 18 seconds on each side and put the CD on.

After 5 seconds he shut the CD off and looked at me with a big smile and said #^%@#$^%$## is that ever nice. We continued to A/B some other CDs with the same results and his comments mirrored mine.

So I have had the chance to hear this on 2 different but revealing systems and can say without a doubt, this takes a good step forward for my listening pleasure on CDs.

I then thought to carry this forward even more. I have a CD Duplicator at my place, a stand alone one and I'm not talking about my Tascam or a Computer.
I thought if using a Demagnetized Disc gives better playback, what would happen if I Demagnetized the Org. Disc put it in the Duplicator and Demagnetized a Blank and put that in the Duplicator. Will it give me a better Copy!

The Org. Disc is actually a copy of a Disc that I borrowed from the local library and that was made on the Duplicator. So The Org. Disc I am using to compare was made on the same Duplicator and the Blanks are the same brand and bought at the same time.
So this helps to keep the test as fair as one can be made.

So I made a Copy and Guess What!!!!

I am very pleased that you are happy with the demag that you got dirt cheap.

This was what I was trying to tell everyone.

You don't have to spend a fortune to benefit from the positive results of demagging.

Have you tried any LP's yet?

Post back when you do, but I already know what the answer will be.

So do I feel smug or vindicated by your finds?

Not really,just happy that you are happy.

You are now part of the club!

The small club of music loving audiophiles who are willing to increase their musical enjoyment and spred the word at the risk of riddicule and condemnation.

Audiophile Evangelists!

No, just a few guys who found something cheap that works better than most every other tweak I have tried.

You only have to hear it once.......



Hey maybe I should patent that phrase befor PQ or ML snag it!.

Maybe I should take a trip to Serbia.

Just a quick question for ripblade and Buick92: Have you tried a demagnetizing unit like the Acoustic Revive with your system? Just a yes or a no...

I've read the full tread and nothing indicate that you tried one and came to the conclusion they did not work.

Myself, no. Maybe when one lands on my lap.

Have you tried Chuck's tin foil trick yet?

I did not try the tin foil...

But I tried the Acoustic Revive RR-77, Acoustic Revive RD-03 and the AudioDesk CD Sound Improver [Lathe]. I had to try them before I could make a comment. I was making fun of a good friend about the Acoustic Revive products. Not any more.

I liked them all,enough that I bought them all.

Welcome to the club Bazz.

The tin foil is what my friend who has Sonus Faber Stradivari speakers says does the same thing as a demag unit.

He has heard my unit, but won't buy a demag unit.
He feels the tin foil is all that he needs to use.

Personally I have never tried the tin foil.

I just threw that out there to see if anyone would try it and report back.

But I guess no one is really interested enough to even do that little experiment.

I guess too busy with other more important things like collecting mid fi trash and hording it.

Pardon my snarkiness, but ......

The Acoustic Revive unit is what a friend of mine uses, another uses a smaller Hammond similar to mine.
They went out and bought these demag units because they heard the improvement they made at a demo at my house.

They are casual audiophiles,most of the adventure is long past for them.
They aren't tweakers, but they will buy if something makes an improvement to the sound, not just makes the sound different.

They are both older than I am,mid to late 60's, .....they only had to hear it once.

When I see the age demographic here and the scepticism of so many who are so much younger than me,it saddens me.

Isn't it supposed to be all about the music?

The gear serves the music,the better the gear, the better service to the music.

The gear can be everything from amps and speakers to wires and demag units.

If something improves the music and is cheap,and it saves someone from selling and reselling gear, then it is worth it's weight in gold.

No, but if you send one my way I would be glad to perform various audio listening tests, and software error correction tests...

Buick wrote:

Mine only cost me $10. on ebay, if you can't afford $10 your in the wrong Hobby!

Buy One!

Anybody have an extra one they would like to sell? PM me Besides its already been about 4 days since bought anything audio. Cheers

Why get personal???

You asked I answered...

So ktuuri,

Which one do you end up with for $10? Don't tell me you get the RD-3 for $10. Enjoy.

Here's the one I got for $10.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... K:MEWNX:IT

Furutech Demag $2673.00 (http://www.audiyo.com/product_desc2.php?plid=7&cat=54&cat2=137)

Acoustic Revive RD-3 $495.00 (http://www.vhaudio.com/miscellaneous.html)

Phase II Demagnetizer $44.00 (http://getmachinetools.com/pro719999.html)

Quite a price range for three devices that will accomplish the exact same thing.

I am willing to spend the $44.00 dollars, and give it a try. I will search for something local, I may be able to get it cheaper…

Buick, so now you're interested?

I told you in the first when I started this thread,,,,, you don't have to spend $2000.00 or even 200.00, if you take the time and effort to hunt one down like Kturri did.

If you spent as much time actually investigating things before you pass judgement, you could have been the proud owner of the $10.00 unit.

But here's a tip, that if you had been paying attention( I think I should pull a Stone, cause no one listens)... look for old radio shack hand held wand type tape head demag units.

I think when new in the 60's and 70's only sold for $25.00.

When I first read about demagging it was a review of the Talisman demag from Walker Audio( add that to your list of store bought goodies -price?).
The Talisman looked an awful lot like an old Radio shack tape head demag I had---

Realistic Head Demagnetizer--cat # 44-211 A Tandy Corp-Fort Worth Texas Madin USA.
UL listed 164D CSA-LR33173.Intermittent duty-2 min on-15 min off. 117 vac,50/60 hz 8.5 watts Cassette,/Cartridge/reel to reel.

I tried my Radio shack unit and --it worked!
Shocked my friends.

Then I had a friend who had a recording studio and went digital,and he just happened to have the Hammond which he gave me.. I offered to buy it.....he later passed on.
Everytime I use the Hammond I pay a silent debt of gratitude to my friend.

Another friend of mine found a similar unit to my hammond, but a slightly smaller version at Brock U ,so he got lucky.

They are out there, think about sourcing one out with the same effort as you would hunting down some 1970's Japanese receiver, or vintage component,they might be lurking with that gear in someone's unsuspecting basement stash of nostalgia.

But as time passes,and word spreads these will be harder to find and prices will go up.

Never said I was not interested, I just want to know how it works.

I emailed Furutech, asked for an explanation, all they said was to buy one, and see for myself. I am not going to spend $2,500.00 plus, or even $500.00 on something I have no faith in.

So far no one, and I mean no one is able to explain how it works...

I have run many disks through error detection programs that check for C1, and C2 errors, and yet my computer DVD player has not made one error as of yet???

If the $44.00 unit has no effect I can still use it to demag my tools...