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 Post subject: help out an old guy
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:14 pm 
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My trusty Denon AVR-988 decided the left surround channel wasn't required anymore so its time to start looking for a replacement. Problem is much of the new fancy technology is lost on me, not sure what all the acronyms are or what they do for me lol.

When I replaced my pure analog Marantz with the more digitally equipped Denon the Denon retained a very similar sound quality to the Marantz. At the time I auditioned several receivers from various makers. They either sounded like tin cans or did not have desired setup options for HT and music listening. I really like how Denon did the bass management and crossovers in the 988, extremely flexible to setup for 5 channel HT and 2 channel listening. I had the chance to audition a newer Denon X1000 and was not super impressed with the sound or setup features, granted it is a lower end model then what I'm used to. I messed with the built in sound correction stuff but always felt it hurt the sound more then it helped.

Soo where does that plant my options for a mix of sound quality and setup flexibility with newer gear? I would like to stay with used gear if possible. There is currently a Pioneer 1527 available for $650 which is around the right price providing it does what I want.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:26 pm 
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Do you want to stay with a multi-channel amp and a HT set up. Or are you ready to move up to a true, dedicated 2-channel stereo system? :idea:


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:50 pm 
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want to stay with multi channel


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Have you had a chance to listen to any of the late model Anthem HT receivers?. I bought one for my 5.1 system and though I am a dedicated two channel guy I often Find myself happily listening to the Anthem for music because I'm too lazy to get up and turn on the main system ( no remote ). I'm not even feeding it with very good sources and it still sounds quite good in two channel mode. It of course does Ht really well.
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with Boxing Day sales happening at week's end there will be plenty of units available in stores at reduced pricing that will have warranty over used units.
the key is to get out this week and make your choice as you'll not get anyone's attention during the sales


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I would second looking at the anthem I have never heard anything by them that didn't sound pretty good


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try something like this..used
this is an Ontario ad try the west for similar.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:48 pm 
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Why not get it repaired? I had my early 2000s vintage Marantz serviced by a local authorized dealer for less than $100.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:57 pm 
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I used to run with an early Denon HT receiver. I was very happy with the sound it put in my vintage JBLs.

I can't remember the model, but, it was (then) their latest unit I bought in 2000.

To repeat the positives on choosing Anthem, when I moved up from the Denon, I bought an Anthem pre (AVM30) and amp (PVA5). They were at that time quite pricey and I was very happy with the sound as well as the 2 channel / HT setup. At that time the Pre was $3400 & the amp was about $1600. You can get that same pre for about $600 these days. A shame for the current owners - but, a plus for someone who does not HAVE to have HDMI. If you can live without the HDMI connection (I run my Oppo directly to the projector), it is one heck of a bang for the buck.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:47 pm 
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Thanks for the help everyone! I'm gonna try to audition some Anthem gear when time permits. The newer breed of receivers all seem to include more ways to stream to then you can shake a stick at and the Anthem has nothing. What would be a good sounding but super simple streaming device to connect to it? Really only need a simple device that can bluetooth to a phone and play audio.


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"Denon doesn't sound as good as Marantz for music even though they are owned by the same company and built in the same factories ( I think.) And Yamaha sound even better than these two, as often reported, and HK even better than Yamaha. I've heard that HK 2700 and 3700 have better amps too than the Denon, Pioneer, ect." , by 'Trace79' http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1522614-these-avr-s-best-music-2.html

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronique/ouest-de-lile-qc/avr3700-harman-kardon/1230967594


"Under $700 or even $1000, my recommendation would be the Emotive 8100. The Emotiva is a great sounding receiver and is now only $499 - a steal at that price. It's the equal and in some ways better(mid range detail) than my NADT758 for less than half the price. It's much better sounding than my Denon AVR-2312 or Yamaha receiver and it's GUI is much more intuitive." , by 'tahoebum' http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1520055-yamaha-rx-a1020-vs-marantz-sr5008-vs-emotiva-fusion-8100-a.html

"I use an 8100 today as a 7.1 (6&7 being Dolby Z height channels as all front speakers are in an AV cabinet) system in a small room and am very happy with SQ, power and usability. I previously used the 8100 with no problem in a much larger room. At current prices I would buy an 8100 over the UMC-200 - why not take the lower price and free power?" , by 'TempTag' http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/39531/fusion-8100-old-marantz-sr8200

"If you are looking at the Fusion AVR and you don't care about all the smoke and mirror tricks other brands use, then I would recommend the Fusion 8100 AVR. The amp section will be as good or better than any AVR on the market unless you are comparing it to some Anthem or other really high priced gear." , by 'deewan' http://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/tech-talk-forum/63862-emotiva-8100-avr-good

"I own a Fusion 8100 and could not be happier with it. I use jRiver and the bluetooth to stream from my computer. I use it 80% for music , 20% for video. With two channel stereo it puts out 110 watts per channel and sounds much better than a mid price Denon it replaced. I had a new Pioneer Elite $700 unit that I returned because of the sound quality I did not like that was rated at 90 watts per channel and the Fusion not only sounded better, but plays louder with out straining" , by 'kauai82' http://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/tech-talk-forum/63862-emotiva-8100-avr-good/page2

"As mentioned, for audio performance, the Fusion 8100 is gonna best other AVRs up to 4x its price." , by 'scottq' http://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/tech-talk-forum/63862-emotiva-8100-avr-good

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emotiva-FUSION-8100-/322388951730 ---> http://www.htpassion.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/EmotivaFusion8100_inside.jpg


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Go to Home theatre and look at the receivers there. Someone is selling a Marantz SR7008 9.2 for 800.00. I have had the 7005 for quite a few years now and never any problems and great sound for surround or stereo. I think that would be a great upgrade for you and last you a long time.


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https://www.amazon.com/Sherbourn-SR-8100-Receiver/product-reviews/B00CWHMBEW ---> http://www.audioholics.com/av-receiver-reviews/sherbourn-sr-8100-receiver/SherbournSR8100BuildQuality.jpg

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162362007059?clk_rvr_id=1155275031171&rmvSB=true ---> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41oYKsWuipL.jpg


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:07 pm 
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Deant wrote:
My trusty Denon AVR-988 decided the left surround channel wasn't required anymore so its time to start looking for a replacement. Problem is much of the new fancy technology is lost on me, not sure what all the acronyms are or what they do for me lol.

When I replaced my pure analog Marantz with the more digitally equipped Denon the Denon retained a very similar sound quality to the Marantz. At the time I auditioned several receivers from various makers. They either sounded like tin cans or did not have desired setup options for HT and music listening. I really like how Denon did the bass management and crossovers in the 988, extremely flexible to setup for 5 channel HT and 2 channel listening. I had the chance to audition a newer Denon X1000 and was not super impressed with the sound or setup features, granted it is a lower end model then what I'm used to. I messed with the built in sound correction stuff but always felt it hurt the sound more then it helped.

Soo where does that plant my options for a mix of sound quality and setup flexibility with newer gear? I would like to stay with used gear if possible. There is currently a Pioneer 1527 available for $650 which is around the right price providing it does what I want.

Dean.


Any reason you've ruled out getting the Demon AVR-988 repaired?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:24 pm 
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The lack of hdmi ports on the Denon was becoming a sore spot. If this wasn't the case I probably would get it fixed. I don't want to put money into something that would have been replaced within a year anyways.

I'm looking back and forth between Marantz and Anthem. Its too bad the local dealer which carried them both folded up a short time ago so I can't even get a live demo. Online shopping is handy enough but way things are going you will have to put in an order to amazon for 50 liters of gas if you want to drive.


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