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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:40 am 
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I think what I've experienced is far from terrible, even in modest units, be it DSD, DTS HD, or TrueHD, for the most part they've surpassed 2ch CD performance significantly in receivers, add in properly executed room correction and any negative of processing is surpassed by its' benefit.


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I bought an NAD 748 in February and have been very happy with it aside from the remote.
The remote stopped working after a couple of weeks, but I was given a replacement and all is well.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:29 pm 
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Buy the cheapest one that does what you want, wait for it to break down. Get another.
Repeat .
My Marantz NR 1403 has been pretty good though. Its 5.1, few bells, no whistles.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:24 pm 
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I am a Denon guy, my first one was the 3805, 4311CI and now the 7200WA, all stellar receivers IMO, I am very please with my latest acquisition.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:40 pm 
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I'm satisfied wih my Anthem MRX 710.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:32 pm 
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My Marantz 1403 has run without incident for two years.


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Just got my Marantz back from the repair shop. As usual it was a shot HDMI board.
HDMI is a real weak point.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:17 pm 
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rnrgagne wrote:
I think what I've experienced is far from terrible, even in modest units, be it DSD, DTS HD, or TrueHD, for the most part they've surpassed 2ch CD performance significantly in receivers, add in properly executed room correction and any negative of processing is surpassed by its' benefit.


I agree; the design and execution of audio electronics has reached nearly uniformly excellent levels nowadays. Receivers do well as long as they are not taxed beyond their limits. I do not feel a loss of my HT / music 5.0 system against my 2.0 channel systems though they serve different priorities. Reading through the advisory comments comes across as a sea of expectation and confirmation biases. In controlled listening amps, receivers and DACs internal and external have at best subtle differences unless driven outside of their limits. I too think the benefits of room correction outweigh any negatives.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:22 am 
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Yeah I wouldn't spend a lot on one, receiver personally.
Just get one with available pre outs for the channels and connect the amps you want.
Theres some pretty clean/accurate pre amp sections in some of the receiver models you can use in 2 channel mode.
You have to have golden ears to hear the difference between them and a separate.
For the odd movie you watch you can switch to other modes...... dolby's etc.In my situation have mainly gone to 2 channel now
Some use Direct or Pure Direct modes for least amount of circuitry involved for 2 channel playback.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:23 pm 
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I still have my old Denon 988 upstairs in my daughters room.
Replaced it with a denon 3808 (loved it but right channel crapped out twice after several years ) and I moved to Marantz 5808.

Differences in all the above were mainly power and number of HDMI inputs, All seemed to me to sound better when room correction was engaged (never got as high as xt 32) and all had phono inputs.

Replaced the last with an arcam integrated and totem forrests , This to me is a big improvement in 2 ch listening which Ive reverted to so I am inclined to think arcam receivers might a route to explore for the OP.
Never heard Anthem gear so cant help there.
I was surprised to hear him describe the Maranz sound as "horrid" and I am wondering two things.
Firstly what he expects of sound in his home that to him wouldnt sound horrid and
Secondly: My experience of moving from Denon 3808 to the Marantz even with room correction was that it seemed kind of scrawny and thinnish in comparison.
This lasted for a couple of months and after that the Marantz seemed to flesh out -in the end I preferred it.
Seems to me this impression confirms the idea of break in or else it may be just that I was well used to the Denon and my brain required time to get used to the new sound projected to my ears and had difficulty in reassembling the signals coherently at first.
At ay rate I found the Marantz not inferior to the Denon .
In the end I moved to separates because what I was after was a sense of solidity and ability to resolve imaging in the sounstage from the depth point of view.
That noted comparing the denon and Marantz on their own terms they didnt seem to me to be markedly different in sound capability and Marantz isnt at all horrid in my room.
IN the end for me they didnt do what I wanted in my room and I suppose they were not designed to do that so that hardly a fair test.
They both did more than well enough in the home theatre 5.1 rig I used to run for movies.
That is my experience an of course the OP has his own experience.
Granted he seemed to like his Denon Id suggest he stick with that line if home theatre is major use;
Never had a Yamaha unit although they are well regarded -they seemed bright to me compared to what I was used to.
The Op might want to think along the lines that the receivers he has referenced are neutral to warmish and a little laid back perhaps something more upfront is what he is wanting


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:13 pm 
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The new Onkyo receivers have fans in their chassis now. Did last year anyways. You can see the fan. I think it is a good idea for a receiver used for multi channel audio. You can also get fans that run off 5 v USB and just place them on the receiver.

Keeps them from overheating and destroying HDMI devices. Also quite turning the receiver on and off. The surging into the amp will eventually destroy sensitive HDMI connects after it.


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http://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronique/ouest-de-lile-qc/avr3700-harman-kardon/1230967594 ---> http://www.soundvisionreview.com/wp-content/uploads/Harman-Kardon-AVR-3700-back-e1461101159298.jpg

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronique/ville-de-montreal/harman-kardon-avr3700-new/1214795388

http://www.china-hifi-audio.com/en/jungson-audio-cd-player-speakers-c-27/jungson-av-899c-6-1-channel-av-home-theater-amplifier-equipment-p-1028

https://www.amazon.com/Sherbourn-SR-8100-Receiver/product-reviews/B00CWHMBEW ---> http://www.audioholics.com/av-receiver-reviews/sherbourn-sr-8100-receiver/SherbournSR8100BuildQuality.jpg , https://img.usaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1276683-sherbourn-sr8100-slimline-71-receiver-read-full-ad.jpg

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emotiva-LMC-1-Ultra-Series-Surround-Processor-Preamp-FREE-SHIPPING-/391678123320
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emotiva-XPA-5-Gen-1-/201780987181


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:51 am 
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Just so you are aware ELOS; that Jungson HT amp from China-hifi is a NIB, 7 year old, grey market piece that would require extensive modification (different power transformer and power supply board) to even work over here. And, being 7 years old, no warranty or parts.


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Serenity_now wrote:
Google dolby Atmos and DTS:X.

The last gen AVRs are soon to be obsolete if they do not support HDMI 2.0a, HDCP 2.2 and immersive audio formats.

If 4k picture with wide color gamut and high dynamic range are important to you its time to start looking at current gen products. Denon and Marantz have first dibs on the rollout of new audio formats it seems. Ignore the folks who say an AVR cant do 2ch. Buy a quality brand like Anthem or Arcam for example and you will be good to go.


Why? Most, if not all new 4k players coming out will have dual HDMI output so HDCP 2.2 is a non issue.


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Marantz has excellent sound for music and movies and most importantly - 3 years warranty. Many of the cheaper home theatre receivers, especially from non-javanese companies are not exactly reliable.

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